27 Jul
Braves 6, Phillies 1
Philadelphia vs. Atlanta Braves – July 27, 2012
Good thing the Braves didn’t give Tommy Hanson a $144 million extension, huh?
Philadelphia vs. Atlanta Braves – July 27, 2012
Good thing the Braves didn’t give Tommy Hanson a $144 million extension, huh?
Late to the party
Angels rotation – Weaver, Greinke, Haren, Wilson, Williams
July 27th, 2012 at 10:02 pmBraves rotation – Sheets, Hudson, Hanson, Minor, Jurrjens
Replace Jurrjens with Medlen I think…not as terrible
July 27th, 2012 at 10:05 pmGreat game. Let’s get 2 of 3.
July 27th, 2012 at 10:06 pm@1,
And your point is . . .?
More relevant immediately is
Nationals rotation: Strasburg, Zimmermann, Gonzalez, Jackson, Detwhiler
Not as good overall as the Angels, perhaps, but a good sight better than the Braves.
July 27th, 2012 at 10:10 pmDidn’t catch the game, but not surprised at the result. McCann owns Hamels.
July 27th, 2012 at 10:10 pmBowman….
The Braves have expressed interest in the Padres’ Edinson Volquez and the Rays’ James Shields. As with Johnson, it will be interesting to see if the Padres and Rays start asking for less in return as Tuesday’s Deadline approaches.
The Rays are looking to acquire young pitchers, and the Braves might be able to satisfy their wish with Randall Delgado and some of their other respected pitching prospects. But instead of Shields, who has a $9 million option for the 2013 season and a $12 million option for 2014, the Braves might be more interested in Wade Davis.
Though Davis has not started this year, the 26-year-old right-hander has made 64 Major League starts in his young career and is much cheaper than Shields. Davis will be owed $2.8 million in 2013 and $4.8 million in 2014. He will then have a $7 million option, $8 million option and $10 million option for each of the three subsequent seasons.
July 27th, 2012 at 10:11 pmNO VOLQUEZ. DON’T DO IT, WREN.
July 27th, 2012 at 10:15 pmAm I missing something about Wade Davis? He doesn’t seem to be much of an improvement over what Randall Delgado could offer, and doesn’t look more attractive than Medlen to me.
July 27th, 2012 at 10:35 pm@8 I agree…that seems like it would be making a trade just to make a trade. I would rather see them put Medlen in the rotation and use the chips to improve the relief corp and bench
July 27th, 2012 at 10:37 pmSomebody on TC just posted that the Brewers’ haul in the Greinke trade would have been akin to us giving up Simmons, Gilmartin, and Spruill for half a season of Zack Greinke.
It’s not a perfect analogy by any means, but it definitely makes me glad Wren traded responsibly.
July 27th, 2012 at 10:44 pmNone of those options are appealing. Volquez leads the NL in walks allowed. Nothing worse than a pitching giving up free runs on a silver platter.
July 27th, 2012 at 10:52 pmLol Coal Hammels.
How do you pay a guy $24MM to pick up the baseball once every five days?
July 27th, 2012 at 11:23 pm12,
He isn’t the second best pitcher in baseball, and does not deserve to be paid like it. Love that deal.
Remember the halcyon days of 2011 when Phillies fans opining that their rotation was better than Smoltz, Maddux, and Glavine? How’s that working out for you in year two, Philadelphia?
July 27th, 2012 at 11:32 pmScutaro to Giants.
The only thing Wade Davis can do that Kris Medlen can’t is get his carry-on out of the overhead compartment.
No reason whatsoever to deal for Wade Davis.
July 27th, 2012 at 11:59 pmDavis is more cheap-o bargain-hunting from Wren and Liberty Media. The fact Bowman has said his name is the scary part, it means it’s legit.
July 28th, 2012 at 12:13 amI hope Wren isn’t getting to proud of himself with the Ben Sheets situation and is in turn thinking he can do the same with Wade Davis.
July 28th, 2012 at 1:37 amIMO, if the team gets Wade Davis, it will be so we have enough arms in the pen that we can move Medlen into the rotation. If Davis comes, it will be as a reliever.
July 28th, 2012 at 1:48 amScott Diamond turned in a 3 hit shutout last night. He’s now 9-4. How did the Braves misjudge him to such an extent?
July 28th, 2012 at 1:53 ammikemc, that’s what happens when players aren’t given a chance to show their stuff in the big leagues. The same thing might happen with JJ Hoover and Todd Redmond.
July 28th, 2012 at 2:43 amThe organization thinks that the scouts have figured their talent levels and whether they could theoretically hack it in the bigs, but nnobody really knows until they are given a chance.
But on the bright side, we did get 50k for Scott Diamond….that could at least partially pay for Juan Francisco’s food consumption.
I don’t think you all are adequately terrified of the prospect of acquiring Edinson Volquez.
If you think you hate watching Tommy Hanson pitch… The Braves never seem to be patient enough when we face him. But try to watch his next start, even if it’s in Petco and some of those long flyballs turn into outs. You really have to see what a 5+ BB/9 means to believe it.
Let’s just hope that next start isn’t in a Braves uniform.
July 28th, 2012 at 7:46 am@18. In my mind, he is another Chuck James, let’s see if he can sustain…of course I have been wrong before on Harrison.
July 28th, 2012 at 8:24 amJames ended up with worse control than either Harrison or Diamond. But if you believe strongly in Gilmartin, it’s hard to justify not believing in Diamond too.
July 28th, 2012 at 8:36 amDiamond is one of those guys who was 7-9 on the Braves list but is 3-5 on the Twins list.
July 28th, 2012 at 8:55 amConsidering the contract the Angels gave Pujols, it is only reasonable that they are going for it this year.
July 28th, 2012 at 9:13 amTime to get Shields, Zobrist, Rodney, and Price.
July 28th, 2012 at 9:25 amAlso, I’m surprised the Braves weren’t willing to beat that Angels package for Greinke.
As expected, it would not have taken Teheran + Delgado to get him.
July 28th, 2012 at 9:26 amThat package was the Angels 2, 4, and 9. A similar package from us would be Simmons, Gilmartin, and JR Graham or Zeke Spruill.
I am not surprised we wouldn’t beat that. And I’m sure the Angels gave us the opportunity before signing off on it.
July 28th, 2012 at 9:30 amRight, I didn’t suggest that the Braves didn’t get a chance to beat it. I said I’m surprised they weren’t willing.
There are a lot of different packages the Braves could’ve put together that would’ve been of similar or greater value. Maybe the Brewers insisted on a top position prospect, in which case the Braves couldn’t do much, since they’re obviously not dealing Simmons.
July 28th, 2012 at 9:33 amRe: a package including Simmons.
I’d have to think Simmons is pretty well untouchable right now, right?
July 28th, 2012 at 9:39 amTwo months of Greinke istn worth it, esp if they were planning on giving him 20% of our payroll also.
July 28th, 2012 at 9:44 amBrewers probably asked for Simmons, Delgado (I doubt they would have gotten Teheran if they required Simmons), and a Gilmartin or Spruill type. They need a shortstop badly and Simmons would have been their primary target.
Given that price–pass. Especially since some moron is probably going to give Greinke seven years this offseason.
July 28th, 2012 at 9:45 amWren should call Dayton and swing a deal for Broxton and — gulp — Betancourt.
July 28th, 2012 at 9:48 amAnd Alex Gordon
July 28th, 2012 at 9:59 amWith our luck, Yuni would find a way to hit .260/.280/.420 and be named Chipper’s replacement for 2013.
July 28th, 2012 at 10:00 amYou mean “with our GM.”. Any team that willingly replaces a first ballot Hall of Famer with Yuni Betancourt has taken luck out of the equation.
July 28th, 2012 at 10:05 amOne more and WIlson Betemit has as many homers as our second baseman, I believe.
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Stu, your Vandy subtlety may be eluding me but you’re not serious about Betancourt, are you?
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If we’re not going to get anyone better than Shields, just stand pat and find a right-handed bat, instead.
Delgado is a fine fifth starter. (It’s Hanson at 1 or 2 that is worrisome.)
July 28th, 2012 at 10:25 amAsking for Simmons would be insulting Wren’s intelligence and a waste of everyone’s time, so I doubt it’s happening.
July 28th, 2012 at 10:25 amSpeaking of Vandy, I’ve been watching those one-hour SEC football games from last year.
I hadn’t realized how close the Dores were to beating Arkansas and Florida.
Where the hell did all those athletes come from?
And Jordan Rodgers may well be the best QB in the conference when all is said and done.
July 28th, 2012 at 10:26 amReed Johnson. That is all.
July 28th, 2012 at 10:28 amSerious about Yuni as a right-handed utility guy. Hopefully, he won’t have occasion to play enough to convince Wren to re-sign him.
Bobby Johnson was no James Franklin, but he recruited better than people realized, especially toward the end of his tenure.
I like Reed Johnson, but I’d rather Wren trade with Dayton Moore than with Theo Epstein.
July 28th, 2012 at 10:32 am1 – why does everyone talk like JJ is in our top 5 starters? Can we not conclude that Delgado is ahead of him now?
July 28th, 2012 at 10:35 amHere is the rotation I would have if I was Wren:
Felix Hernandez
Justin Verlander
CC Sabathia
Stephen Strasburg
Matt Cain
Think about it, that would make our pitching staff:
Felix Hernandez
July 28th, 2012 at 10:35 amJustin Verlander
CC Sabathia
Stephen Strasburg
Matt Cain
#41 – Yes, but he hasnt been put back into the rotation. Thats actually our current rotation until a change is made. Medlen should be ahead of him also.
July 28th, 2012 at 11:10 amSo should Smitty.
July 28th, 2012 at 11:19 am42—Needs more James Shields, IMO.
July 28th, 2012 at 11:42 amPretty sure Smitty could give us better than a 3.61 K/9 for less than $5.5 mil.
July 28th, 2012 at 11:53 amI really like Randall Delgado and would hate to lose him. I guess that’s what makes him in demand. Too bad Medlen hasn’t gotten another crack at the rotation. I’d much rather roll the dice with Medlen than sell Delgado.
July 28th, 2012 at 12:22 pmFun Indians fact: Derek Lowe has 43 walks and 40 strikeouts to go with a 5+ ERA.
July 28th, 2012 at 12:24 pmI guess JJ is going to be given one more chance to prove he is done. I do not think he is realistically in our rotation going forward.
July 28th, 2012 at 12:30 pmHis turn on Tuesday is TBA and Fredi has said that Medlen can start if he doesn’t pitch this weekend (or if the Braves trade for a reliever rather than a starter).
July 28th, 2012 at 12:40 pmStu has a fever and the only cure is more James Shields.
July 28th, 2012 at 2:33 pmDOB and Bowman tweeting that Jurrjens is going to the pen, and unless we trade for a starting pitcher, Medlen will start Tuesday.
July 28th, 2012 at 3:23 pmYesssss.
July 28th, 2012 at 3:25 pm@42,
I agree. What’s wrong with Wren?
July 28th, 2012 at 3:25 pmBut do we have to trade Delgado to get all those guys?
July 28th, 2012 at 4:31 pmGreat news about JJ and Medlen.
July 28th, 2012 at 4:36 pmThe Braves can’t even commit to Medlen. It’s crazy. He’s only starting if they don’t acquire someone else. Keep the guy in limbo all the time, why don’t you.
July 28th, 2012 at 4:53 pmDon’t want any part of Volquez. He never bounced back well after Dusty broke his arm. Petco will make lots of guys’ stats look better.
July 28th, 2012 at 4:57 pmSo, we are delaying releasing Jurrjens for what reason?
July 28th, 2012 at 5:29 pmGood first inning by Minor!
July 28th, 2012 at 6:17 pmWay to go, Mike!
July 28th, 2012 at 6:33 pmSeems like MiMi’s figuring this thing out.
July 28th, 2012 at 6:35 pmThe Braves outfield is so damn good.
July 28th, 2012 at 6:35 pm62- It’d be a Minor miracle if he made the required Minor adjustments. So far, this is just a Minor statistical anomaly.
July 28th, 2012 at 6:35 pmContinuing the positive reinforcement. Great job Minor!
July 28th, 2012 at 6:47 pmYeah, Chip. Jimmy Rollins is better than Mike Schmidt. And he’s going to the HOF. Wow.
July 28th, 2012 at 6:48 pm*swoon* ahhhh, Beachy…. How I miss seeing his handsome face.
July 28th, 2012 at 6:51 pm@66: Heard that too. Absolutely baffled.
Chip said Jimmy Rollins might be the “greatest Phillie ever”–even with some guy named Mike Schmidt in mind–and his credentials might land him in the Hall once he’s finished.
Joe Simpson: “Really?”
F*cking wow.
July 28th, 2012 at 6:52 pmI really, really want to re-sign Bourn.
July 28th, 2012 at 6:53 pmWhen Mike gives them up, he really gives them up.
July 28th, 2012 at 7:02 pmMinor and Blanton are now tied for the NL lead in HR allowed. Let’s change that in the bottom of the fourth, boys.
July 28th, 2012 at 7:04 pmGreat pitch, Minor.
July 28th, 2012 at 7:07 pmSpeaking of Minor, I hate that Stu refuses to respond to my trolling. So this is what unrequited love feels like.
July 28th, 2012 at 7:08 pmI love how the announcers think that Uggla will magically not suck when August rolls around.
July 28th, 2012 at 7:12 pmSo what sucker would take the uggla contract off our hands?
July 28th, 2012 at 7:18 pmWay to go Mike! Great outing so far.
July 28th, 2012 at 7:31 pmMinor looking like a pitcher and keeping his good work of late going…very nice to see.
July 28th, 2012 at 7:32 pmBrilliant job by Minor. I wish we could get some more runs for him.
July 28th, 2012 at 7:44 pmSo I see we added Cliff Lee and put him in a Minor jersey
July 28th, 2012 at 7:46 pmGreat catch Martin! Great work Minor!!! Wow, what a start.
July 28th, 2012 at 7:59 pmThat was the kind of pitching performance that makes me want to hang it up in a museum and present it as true art.
July 28th, 2012 at 8:01 pmWow. Great work by Minor.
July 28th, 2012 at 8:02 pmI have to admit, Minor has had a hell of a great August.
July 28th, 2012 at 8:14 pmProphecy of Minor’s next five/six performances?
July 28th, 2012 at 8:19 pmHave you been in your time travel machine again, Mr. Remington?
July 28th, 2012 at 8:20 pmGreat play by Janesh, again.
July 28th, 2012 at 8:22 pmBeautiful. Great win.
July 28th, 2012 at 8:24 pmKimbrel, whew.
Blanton vs. Minor. I go to dinner half-expecting a shootout & half-game of action. I return to a late-innning pitchers’ duel. Gotta love the result. Go for the sweep!
July 28th, 2012 at 8:25 pmGod I love Craig Kimbrel.
July 28th, 2012 at 8:25 pmMinor and Kimbrel combine to retire sixteen Phillies in order
July 28th, 2012 at 8:26 pmBethany saw him first
July 28th, 2012 at 8:27 pmSo that means Beachy is up for grabs?
July 28th, 2012 at 8:30 pmI think I saw some pine tar on the brim of Kimbrel’s cap.
July 28th, 2012 at 8:35 pmNooo! Beachy is MINE!
July 28th, 2012 at 8:39 pmCould it be that the best trade is the one you don’t made? I believe this is five consecutiver quality starts by Minor and Delgado. The real problem now is JJ and Hanson.
July 28th, 2012 at 8:40 pmIt could be that we look back on this year’s trade deadline and thank Frank Wren for standing pat. I sure didn’t see that as a possibility a couple of weeks ago.
July 28th, 2012 at 8:42 pm@94, He did look pretty boss with the beard tonight. I’m just sayin’…..
July 28th, 2012 at 8:47 pmLiriano to the White Sox. That’s a sigh of relief.
July 28th, 2012 at 10:15 pm