Cardinals 8, Braves 2
St. Louis Cardinals vs. Atlanta Braves – Box Score – May 28, 2012 – ESPN.
What we have here is a bad baseball team — at the moment, the worst team in baseball. They are not only getting beat, they aren’t even competitive. I doubt that they will stay this bad, but they are basically burying themselves. Even the return of Brian McCann didn’t do any good — in fact, he allowed a passed ball for the game’s first run. Considering the Braves’ (generally admirable) refusal to overreact, I doubt that Fredi is going to get fired any time soon, but I have to think his seat is getting warm.
Tommy Hanson‘s Jair Jurrjens bag of tricks didn’t work today, as he went two innings then imploded. He gave up a couple of runs in the third, followed by a two-run two-out homer, then Rafael Furcal hit one with one out in the fourth. This was followed by one more, inherited (by Kris Medlen) run to make it 6-0. The Braves actually got two runs in the bottom of the inning on a Juan Francisco two-out single, but in the sixth Medlen gave the runs back on a two-run double.
Okay, Chipper Jones is out, and David Ross and Freddie Freeman are out, and Matt Diaz is playing through illness and McCann is probably still weak. But the pitching has also collapsed, and none of the hitters except Martin Prado is doing much of anything. It’s bad right now.
In other news, Beth Keener has a hotter, Erin Andrews-y replacement.
May 28th, 2012 at 3:44 pmWe should be looking into Youkilis.
May 28th, 2012 at 3:51 pmJoe took a shot at the Twitter crap today when he mentioned Ross’s haircut. He said something about giving them something to talk about. It’s bad when half of one of the worst duos in the game starts making fun of your tactics.
May 28th, 2012 at 3:55 pmIt’s bad when Joe says anything.
It’s bad that they’ve already fired one intern (or maybe she quit because she had an ounce of self-respect).
It’s bad when the Braves act like they’re a real baseball team.
It’s just bad.
May 28th, 2012 at 4:48 pmHow long would this streak have to go for Fredi to get canned? And likewise, if we pull out of the nosedive somewhat but are in last place heading into the All-Star Break, does he get the axe nonetheless? One would have to think so.
It’s funny because I wouldn’t say this is his fault. I’m much more pissed at our pitchers. And Heyward.
I wonder who would replace Fredi.
May 28th, 2012 at 5:06 pmBraves losing streaks, eight games or longer, April 1990-August 2011: Two.
Braves losing streaks, eight games or longer, last 60 games: Two.
May 28th, 2012 at 5:10 pmFredi is not getting fired this season.
Free Andrelton!
May 28th, 2012 at 6:12 pmIs Heyward the new Francoeur?
May 28th, 2012 at 6:33 pmTen over .500 to two over .500 in record time.
May 28th, 2012 at 6:39 pm@8
I’ve been thinking that about Hayward. Scary comparison
May 28th, 2012 at 6:40 pmOh my god. This blows. Hadn’t paid attention to Freeman’s injury. Do opponents toss sand into our player’s eyes a al some wrestling heel?
May 28th, 2012 at 6:55 pm“My guess is that Fredi Gonzalez will manage the Braves for most of two seasons, being replaced by a coach in late 2012 with a record a little better than his Marlins record. I hope I’m wrong.” -Mac, 10/13/2010
http://www.bravesjournal.com/?p=6327
May 28th, 2012 at 6:56 pmI think what is most upsetting to me about this is that I think the team is going to steadily decline after this year. This was our best shot at a real run.
@10 Heyward has a much better track record than Francouer, but he has been unable to keep his head above water at the MLB level since the book got out on him.
May 28th, 2012 at 6:57 pmI miss winning. And a good defensive shortstop. And Chipper and Fredi and the real BMAC.
May 28th, 2012 at 7:26 pm10- Better than the next Komminsk, which has also occurred to me. Heyward seems to do alright until he has his first twinge, owie, or day when he doesn’t want to get out of bed, at which point he’s virtually useless for the rest of the season.
May 28th, 2012 at 8:00 pmHeyward is just overrated, like most Braves prospects end up being. He has flaws in his swing that may not be fixable.
May 28th, 2012 at 8:15 pmWe’ve reached a whole new level. This team needs some offensive and defensive help and soon. We have the worst infield defense in all of baseball. Two of those guys have OBP under .290. How is it you can be awful at the plate and in the field while keeping a job on whats suppose to be a contending team? We need at least one starter to help upgrade the rotation, we probably need at least two more arms to upgrade the bullpen. We need a new team eye physician. Whole new level.
May 28th, 2012 at 8:25 pm@csg
Between a -10 UZR, a .944 fielding percentage and a .287 OBP, I’m fairly certain Pastornicky is the worst everyday player in baseball.
May 28th, 2012 at 8:58 pm#18 – Well, I wont argue with you thats for sure.
BTW, our old pal Jairo Asencio has been DFA’d by Cleveland.
May 28th, 2012 at 9:22 pmTeheran got lit up today – 3IP 7H 6R 4ER 2BB 5K 1HR
May 28th, 2012 at 9:28 pmMac, it’s great to see you back. I’m sorry that Stu and I screwed up the Braves so badly. We really didn’t mean to.
May 28th, 2012 at 9:52 pmThey did it on purpose, Mac. Hopefully you can right the ship.
May 28th, 2012 at 9:54 pmwow we are sruggling … never thought Chipper could have that much influence on a team .. can we resign him for another 5 years … nobody can play unless he is in lineup … Heyward for sure has too long of a swing and too many holes … like francour takes too long to get thru the hitting zone .. they both have to start swing too early and either get fooled or cant catch up .. Why arent we bringing up an OF or Catcher that can hit or a 1st baseman Mejia to hit against lefties .. this team is not only struggling but the management is strugging even more !!! looks Bad !!! 1st to last in 8 games in division .. Phils gonna get well .. looks like we are gonna be fighting to stay out of dungeon.
May 28th, 2012 at 9:57 pmHeyward obviously isn’t the only problem on the team but he doesn’t seem to be the solution either. I’ve been watching Bryce Harper and I just watched Mike Trout hit a home run on TV. They are both younger than Jason but they both seem to have much better swings. Heyward has some good at-bats periodically but I have no confidence that he is anything more than an average player. Saying he is “only 22″ is a weak excuse at this point-he is in his third full season in the majors. It appears that the only pitch he can really handle is down and in and pitchers can stay away from that for the most part.
May 28th, 2012 at 10:00 pm@7 .. free Andrelton, Mejia, Constanza or one of the other OF’s at AAA that is hitting .. get a backup catcher up here that can at least swing the bat a little till Mccann and Ross get healthy .. Diaz is hitting a little but Heyward and Diaz arent getting it done .. get Jurrgins back and give teheran another shot .. cant hurt. Gotta shake it up a bit
May 28th, 2012 at 10:03 pmHeyward’s allowing Harper to leg out a hustle double was inexcusable.
May 28th, 2012 at 10:03 pm…Baseball, hot dogs, apple pie, and Chevrolet…
May 28th, 2012 at 10:08 pmWho is Jurrgins?
May 28th, 2012 at 10:11 pmHeyward is not the problem.
May 28th, 2012 at 11:19 pmAt worst you could say that he’s a problem. But it’s probably more accurate to say that right now he’s just a guy.
May 28th, 2012 at 11:41 pmI still think Heyward is going to be really good, but damn if it gets old seeing him swing through strike 3 on the condensed games.
May 29th, 2012 at 12:52 amMcCann/Uggla/Freeman have to improve a lot for this team to do well. The meat of our order has been awful for a month. Heyward just isn’t going to be all that great unless he changes his swing, which is pretty tough to do while in the majors. Meanwhile, the pitching sucks. It’s not like we’re just one or two players away.
May 29th, 2012 at 5:49 amGood to see you back in action Mac. The Braves need you.
May 29th, 2012 at 6:02 amIf anyone wants a positive, the 2010 Atlanta Braves had a 9-game losing streak and made the playoffs.
Hopefully the curse of Alex and Stu will rectify now that Mac is back.
May 29th, 2012 at 6:03 amI go on vacation for a week and you lot let this happen?! You are all very bad fans.
May 29th, 2012 at 7:43 amAlso, “will be rectified.” I don’t think the curse itself will be rectifying anything, per se.
May 29th, 2012 at 7:52 amIt feels good to have the collapse coming four months early.
May 29th, 2012 at 8:33 amI never said Heyward was “the” problem. But he is supposed to be more than just a guy and he isn’t. If your number 1 draft pick is “just a guy” it seems to me you have significant problems. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to expect more from Heyward in his third season. Whether because of injuries or whatever, he is a very average (at best) player right now and has been since he hurt his shoulder his rookie year. I’m not saying give up on him but he is a big disappointment.
May 29th, 2012 at 8:34 amI’m not going to panic. I think we will still make the playoffs.
We need to address our starting pitching issues. We also need another arm in the pen.
I imagine we can address the pen internally. We need to go out and get a starter.
I think our hitters are just really streaky. Also remember we have played 19 games in a row. This team needs an off day.
Another issue no one is talking about is; Why can’t they get Freeman’s eyes fixed?
May 29th, 2012 at 8:54 amThe problem with Heyward is that we were sold a playbill for Dave Winfield’s second coming (at the least) and so far we’ve gotten something between B.J. Upton in RF and a shinier, happier Delmon Young. That’s a disappointment no matter how you slice it.
The fact that the majority of Heyward’s value comes from defense these days doesn’t help.
May 29th, 2012 at 8:55 amI have thought for a while Heyward and Freeman are the second coming of Francoeur and McCann. Seems like the first one to make it to the MLB team is overly hyped, then disappoints. Meanwhile there is very little noise made about the second one’s arrival to the team and they turn out to be the real deal. Now with Freeman experiencing “dry eye” problems *just like McCann did* it is just eerie how similar the pairs of players seem to be tracking.
May 29th, 2012 at 9:04 amFrancoeur never put up anything close to the minor league or major league (first season) numbers of Heyward. It’s not really a fair comp. Heyward’s been a disappointment and hasn’t lived up to expectations. No one with any inkling of a clue should have ever had expectations for Francoeur.
May 29th, 2012 at 9:05 am@40: you hit the nail on the head about Heyward.
May 29th, 2012 at 9:07 am@40 – Dave Winfield didn’t have a season as good as Heyward’s rookie year until he was 25, and Heyward is still on pace to have a year as good as Winfield’s 24 season this year despite being 1-2 years younger. The problem isn’t that Heyward was billed to be the second coming of Winfield and didn’t turn into that, the problem is that he was billed to be the second coming of Winfield (or similar) and then didn’t follow the career path of ARod. He’s having exactly the kind of start to a career you’d expect an extremely talented young baseball player with the potential to compete for a couple of MVPs someday to have, but fans don’t know how to aim their expectations somewhere between best player of all time and bum”
May 29th, 2012 at 9:24 amI think part of the problem is that 2012 marks the 3rd straight year that a starting position has been handed over to a rookie. How many teams do that and contend at the same time?
May 29th, 2012 at 9:33 amI’m sure that will be some consolation when Heyward blossoms into an MVP contender with some other team, well after the very, very small window for the Braves to compete with him has closed tight.
May 29th, 2012 at 9:36 amWhen I start to panic about a streak like this, I just look back at the late 80′s when our ‘ace’ was Rick Mahler and I relax just a bit.
I don’t know if this team as constructed can contend, but it IS possible. I knew that Gerald Perry, Terry Harper, Zane Smith, et al were never going to contend.
So there, now all you young punks get off my lawn!
May 29th, 2012 at 9:41 am@40,
That’s a good point. Heyward is a perfectly serviceable player with significant power and (overall) a fine right fielder. But he obviously isn’t the player the Braves were hoping for, especially when you look at guys like Stanton, who is a monster. Maybe the expectations were unfair. I don’t know whether it’s a case of the Braves overhyping their prospects in general or injuries. But it’s happened a lot. And, obviously, the Braves have not been in positon to draft the Strasburgs or Harpers or Stantons.
May 29th, 2012 at 9:41 amI just said the first guy in the tandem was overly hyped. IIRC, both Heyward and Francoeur were on the cover of SI. I was not trying to make a direct comparison between Heyward and Francoeur (I think Heyward is far superior); I was only trying to draw a comparison between the pairs of players and how it seems to have played out so far: first guy gets the hype but disappoints while second guy is hardly mentioned but performs.
May 29th, 2012 at 9:45 am@48
I think it’s a matter of wishcasting, both internally (in the org) and externally (in the fan base.) Everyone and their mother *knows* the Braves don’t need a perfectly serviceable young outfielder who may grow into an MVP candidate one of these years. The Braves need someone to replace Chipper Jones. *Now.* And every day Jason Heyward fails to be that guy is a day Jason Heyward fails to live up to expectations, fair or not.
May 29th, 2012 at 9:48 amYou know, Sam, sometimes you make sense (and it’s scary). This team needs a superstar.
The team that I think provides the best case scenario comp to this year’s Braves would be the 2005 White Sox. Didn’t have one real superstar performance (although Konerko was aces) but built a winner around 3 things:
1) Solid, good-not-great starting pitching. Essentially had four #2′s.
2) Health. Position players and starters (4 guys with 200+ innings) avoided big injuries.
3) They owned their division. Beat some pretty good Indians and Twins teams and feasted on the division’s dregs. This probably had the most to do with beating their pythag by 8 games.
To me, this Braves team would need to follow this model to win. So far, they are 0-for-3, but still time to turn it around.
May 29th, 2012 at 10:17 am@48,
That’s a great point, Sam. The Braves are trying to survive by relying on young players while ostensibly still trying to win. The fact is, the Braves are trying to win only within the parameters that Liberty has stuck them with. If it’s a matter of winning vs. saving payroll, saving payroll wins out. The Braves aren’t going to spend money to bring in an established player-other than temporary rentals like Teixera and Bourn- so they have to rely on young, cheap players and sell the fan base on the idea that these guys are going to be great players. Same with the pitching; they got sort of burned with Lowe so they are trumpeting these pitching prospects who, while they might be really good some day, aren’t really what you need right now to compete for a championship.
May 29th, 2012 at 10:19 amMy expectation level, fair or not, is that Heyward is the next Andruw Jones. So far he’s not. Comparing him to the best CF I’ve ever seen is probably irrational, but it’s players like Andruw Jones that took the Braves to the playoffs and World Series on a regular basis. You need at least one or two players like that, imo, rather than the collection of “pretty good” guys that we have right now. Our best teams had Chipper and Andruw both near their peaks. We’re very far removed from that now, imo.
May 29th, 2012 at 10:23 amI agree with Sam. I’m not worried about Heyward. In fact, I think he might be our CF next year.
His numbers in center would look a lot better
May 29th, 2012 at 10:28 amHeyward in CF and Josh Hamilton in RF would balm a lot of concerns. (You could make the money work if you spun it hard enough.)
May 29th, 2012 at 10:33 am@51: if I recall correctly, the 2005 White Sox had amazing starting pitching, and were getting flukey-amazing relief pitching out of unexpected guys such as Neal Cotts and Bobby Jenks.
That ain’t this year’s Atlanta Braves.
May 29th, 2012 at 10:40 amRE: this year’s Atlanta Braves, the bottom line is if 1) Chipper Jones doesn’t play, 2) Brian McCann doesn’t hit, 3) Jason Heyward doesn’t hit, 4) Freddie Freeman’s eye is consumed by flesh eating bacteria, 5) the only starter who can reliably get out of fifth is the 37 year old with back issues, and 6) the shut-down pen regresses to mean from last year, this team *WILL NOT WIN.* Period. End of story. And there’s not much a manager will do about that one way or the other.
May 29th, 2012 at 10:43 am@53
Actually, so far he is more or less Andruw Jones. With the bat, anyway.
Heyward OPS+ by season through age 22: 131,94,105 career, 114
Andruw OPS+ by season through age 22: 80,93,116,114 career, 107
May 29th, 2012 at 10:58 amReal nice article up on BP about Venter’s and his BABIP issues.
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=17163
One of the takeaways is that the Braves infield isn’t very good defensively. I’m actually starting to come around on the campaign to bring up Simmons, though I figure they’ll give Pastornicky at least another month.
May 29th, 2012 at 11:05 am@53,
Andruw was important, but I think Maddux/Glavine/Smoltz, etc. had a lot more to do with the Braves winning than Andruw. If Andruw (circa say 1998) were on the team today, I don’t think the team would be much better.
May 29th, 2012 at 11:11 amAndruw’s career dovetailed quite nicely with Javy Lopez’ career, as one of the “other guys” in the Braves order aside from Chipper. The problem with the late era Braves isn’t that they don’t have enough “other guys.” It’s that they don’t have *Chipper,* or someone who can replace him.
May 29th, 2012 at 11:25 amAndruw’s peak was HOF worthy. It’s kinda short-changing him to lump him in with the “other guys” who were complimentary “nice pieces” alongside of Chipper. But to add to @61, not only do we not have a Chipper-level replacement, our “other” guys aren’t even close to doing what good-Andruw and good-Javy were capable of.
@58, Andruw’s 3rd season was pretty darn good, 30+ HRs and a decent OPS. Heyward is not on that pace so far.
May 29th, 2012 at 11:34 amIn their stronger years the Braves would have a couple of players cracking 900 OPS. Some years it was Andres Galarraga or Javy Lopez. Some years it was Andruw or Gary Sheffield or J.D. Drew. One year it was even Brian McCann.
Every year, it was Chipper.
There are a couple of guys on this team who can put together 900ish OPS seasons in onesie-twosie fashion, and a few more who can provide the 100-120 OPS+ in support as well, but without a player of Chipper’s caliber to provide the backbone onto which the standout years and supporting players glom onto, the offense will continue to be feast or famine as it has been for the last couple of years.
Chipper is 40 damned years old. Some of the kids need to have stepped up and become someone for *him* to support by this point, and they haven’t. And now we don’t even have the starting pitching to cover up that fact any more.
May 29th, 2012 at 11:49 amAndruw’s 3rd season was the best of his career. Viewed in the context of the rest of his career, it was a fluke.
May 29th, 2012 at 12:06 pmOops, I meant his 5th season, 2000, which was his 3rd as the full-time CF.
May 29th, 2012 at 12:07 pmhttp://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/7983066/source-roy-oswalt-threw-los-angeles-dodgers-last-week
Noooo!
May 29th, 2012 at 12:40 pmI just realized that the Braves haven’t won since I launched my magazine. It’s not Alex or Stu’s fault, it’s mine!
May 29th, 2012 at 12:49 pmCan’t do this b/c I am on the road (I have been fortunate to miss every game since the Rays series.), but how are Heyward’s batted ball stats?
I looked a little over a week ago and his LD% was way up and his GB% was down, with his BB% up and his K% down a little. It looked like he was striking the ball better than his rookie year with good plate discipline peripherals. His BABIP was very low though.
I think people may be little too focused on batting average over a partial season.
May 29th, 2012 at 12:50 pmStupefaction – the Fredi Reaction.
I’m pretty sure it’s what you don’t see that defines a good manager and you don’t see good managers allowing their teams to fall and stay in a roadside ditch for extended periods of time on multiple occassions.
My guess is Wren wasn’t thrilled with Bobby’s choice of Fredi but couldn’t (or wouldn’t) say anything and is drumming his fingers near the EJECT button at this very moment.
May 29th, 2012 at 12:54 pm@66 Thanks for the link Alex.
Some days I wonder where the rumors originate. Ther was taklk of Youklis above. Can anybody find more on that?
I mean, anyone can sit and look at last place teams and speculate. (Yeah, Dempster can still pitch and that sounds like something Wren might try. Or, Soriano, maybe, but he drives me crazy in fantasy leagues).
It’s such a pleasure (mixed) to see what you posted.
May 29th, 2012 at 12:56 pmThis is how I feel about Fredi.
May 29th, 2012 at 1:18 pmFredi tells DOB “but the one thing we’re doing, you see our team playing hard…”
Well, sorry Fredi, that’s precisely the one thing I’m NOT seeing. Too many base running and fielding errors — too much nonchalance in general to get that judgment.
May 29th, 2012 at 1:37 pm@72
That’s just observational bias on your part. Many of the errors are made *because* the players are trying to hard, pressing, rushing throws, etc. You assign it to “nonchalance” because the outcomes are bad, not because they are indicative of a lack of trying in and of themselves.
May 29th, 2012 at 1:40 pmI didn’t mean to compare Heyward to Francoeur in terms of skills. What I was referring to is two highly regarded right field prospects who came up with the Braves and enjoyed very good rookie seasons only to slip considerably thereafter. It took Jeffy a few years to regain any offensive value. I sure hope that doesn’t happen to JHey. I like him and root for him every day.
If it does take a few years he probably won’t be in Atlanta when it happens.
May 29th, 2012 at 1:57 pm@70
The only news that came out about Youkilis was the Braves were scouting him on his AAA rehab assignment.
Bowman has suspicion that big changes could be coming for Atlanta: 1. Simmons up to the Majors
May 29th, 2012 at 2:14 pm2. Medlen to the Minors to stretch out for starting.
My objection is not that they’re not playing hard. It’s that they obviously don’t want to win.
May 29th, 2012 at 2:24 pmposted at AJC…cant verify
Mark Bowman @mlbbowman
May 29th, 2012 at 2:42 pmBraves have optioned Medlen to Gwinnett and recalled Jose Constanza. Medlen will make 2-3 starts before joining ATL rotation
cant verify this also.
Atlanta Braves @Braves
May 29th, 2012 at 2:43 pmTonight’s lineup vs. STL (7:10, SPSO/680AM/BRN): Bourn 8 Prado 5 McCann 2 Uggla 4 Hinske 3 Heyward 9 Pastornicky 6 Delgado 1 Constanza 7
FREDI GOT CONSTANZA BACK!!
May 29th, 2012 at 2:47 pmOh dear lord.
May 29th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
May 29th, 2012 at 3:05 pmBefore the wailing and gnashing of teeth commences, a question or two:
1) How well has Constanza been playing at AAA?
2) Is it better or worse to have Juan Francisco’s bat and glove at 3B, or Prado’s glove at 3B and Constanza’s bat and glove in LF?
May 29th, 2012 at 3:29 pmGondee at TC says Constanza has been struggling of late, for the record.
May 29th, 2012 at 3:39 pmRangers sign Oswalt.
Being broke sucks.
May 29th, 2012 at 3:41 pmJose Constanza’s last 10 games.
.139/.184/.222
May 29th, 2012 at 3:46 pmdooooooooomed.
I can’t even muster the all caps.
May 29th, 2012 at 3:49 pmHe’s hitting .288/.363/.381 at Gwinnett this year. He hit .312/.361/.351 at Gwinnett last year.
Actually, I don’t hate the move. With Chipper on the DL, Prado needs to be at third base, and I don’t think Constanza’s glove is necessarily worse than Eric Hinske or Matt Diaz’s bat. He shouldn’t suck up all the starts, but I don’t mind if he gets a few, as long as he doesn’t Wally Pipp Heyward again.
May 29th, 2012 at 3:50 pmI would guess that we’ll play short 1 bullpen arm for a few games until McCann and Ross are fully recovered. When they get better I bet we’ll send Boscan down and call up Gearrin or Carlyle. Anyone have other thoughts, or is this the plan?
May 29th, 2012 at 3:53 pmTODD REDMOND!1!!!!!111!
May 29th, 2012 at 3:54 pm@73,
Absolutely agree. People are looking to pin everything short of global warming on Fredi. Teams go through slumps; as I recall, both the 10 game losing streak in 2006 and the 9 game losing streak in 2010 were on Bobby’s watch. Fredi is no John McGraw but, IMO, the big difference between Bobby and Fredi is that Bobby had much better players. When he didn’t, Bobby didn’t win either.
The fact is, losing streaks build on themselves because players start pressing, not because they aren’t trying. They probably care too much. Pastornicky’s mental errors occurred because he was trying to do too much, not because he doesn’t care. Whenever a team is playing badly, they look flat and make mistakes and people say they aren’t trying. It’s not “nonchalance” that causes mistakes; if anything, teams play better when they are more relaxed.
May 29th, 2012 at 3:58 pmAm I NEVER going to get a chance to root for the Panamaniac? Geez…
May 29th, 2012 at 3:59 pmOne quibble: Pastornicky’s “mental error” occurred because Dan Uggla dropped the damned ball.
May 29th, 2012 at 4:01 pmI’m not sure a straight platoon of Diaz and Constanza in LF isn’t the best option right now. Constanza can defend at least.
May 29th, 2012 at 4:02 pm@25 – @7 .. free Andrelton, Mejia, Constanza or one of the other OF’s at AAA that is hitting ..- Tad
Im blaming you.
May 29th, 2012 at 4:07 pm@92,
Well, I don’t think Uggla was expecting the ball and the throw was into the runner. I’m sure he assumed Pastornicky was going to first. I blame Pastornicky more than Uggla. It was the wrong play at that point.
May 29th, 2012 at 4:20 pmA complete list of the Gwinnett players with an OPS higher than Jose Constanza:
Ernesto Mejia (1B)
Stefan Gartrell (OF)
Christian Marrero (1B/OF)
Jordan Parraz (OF)
Lance Zawadzki (SS)
Not a very inspiring list, and I’m pretty sure that Constanza can out-defense all of them. Even if he wasn’t the best choice he was a defensible one.
God, I miss Gregor Blanco so much more than I reasonably should.
May 29th, 2012 at 4:22 pmMLB.com wants me to come visit them tomorrow to see if I want to work there. But I just started here in Boston. I don’t know what to do.
May 29th, 2012 at 4:24 pmDo you still hate Boston? Its worth listening to them at least.
May 29th, 2012 at 4:26 pm@98 It’s the people/having no way to meet people that bothers me most, the city itself is fine. I feel like it’d be a pretty big jerk move to ditch my job this soon.
May 29th, 2012 at 4:42 pmEliminating the non-OF options:
Stefan Gartrell (OF) – Bats: Right, Throws: Right
Christian Marrero (1B/OF) – Bats: Left, Throws: Left
Jordan Parraz (OF) – Bats: Left, Throws: Left
Gartrell is redundant to Matt Diaz, plus he K’s every third at bat in AAA. He’s not really an option to help the ML team.
I would assume Marrero is a negative asset defensively, but all I have to go there is the 1B/OF split.
No idea on what pushed Constanza ahead of Parraz.
May 29th, 2012 at 4:44 pmI for one would rather see Constanza than endure another game with Juan, soon to be in Gwinnet, Francisco. That guy sucks.
May 29th, 2012 at 5:06 pmAt least the Braves are trying something.
So once Medlen stretches out, does Minor or Delgado lose their spot?
Minor. Definitely Minor.
May 29th, 2012 at 5:11 pmWhat I saw of Jordan Parraz in Spring Training didn’t impress me, though that doesn’t say much. He looked a lot like Joe Mather to me, which is to say a tall white guy who looks like he ought to have power but doesn’t.
Then again, Mather has actually been useful for the Cubs this year, so what do I know?
May 29th, 2012 at 5:11 pmYeah, there is no way for Mike Minor to pitch the way he has and not lose his job.
May 29th, 2012 at 5:12 pmFrancisco can’t be sent down, can he? I thought he was out of options.
I really want a good defensive shortstop instead of Pastornicky.
May 29th, 2012 at 5:16 pm@101
DOB indicated that they are pitching for the spot.
May 29th, 2012 at 5:16 pmI’m not a big fan of Francisco, but outside of Prado, he may be our best hitter over the last 10 games. He’s 9 for 32 (.281) with 2 hrs and 6 rbi. Not great by any means, but still better than most anyone on the team. This is a pretty sad commentary!
May 29th, 2012 at 5:17 pmAndrelton Simmons may be on his way too
May 29th, 2012 at 5:23 pmAdding to my point, batting averages over the last 10 games:
Prado .333
Francisco .281
Diaz .238
Uggla .207
Heyward .188
Pastornicky .172
Bourne .171
Ross .167
Hinske .120
This is pretty ugly!!
May 29th, 2012 at 5:24 pmIm assuming that another bad outing defensively from this crew might be enough to get Simmons a call up. Has there been a worse defensive infield ever over Fransisco/Pastornicky/Uggla/Hinkse?
May 29th, 2012 at 5:36 pm#109 – Gotta tip your cap to the 10 pitchers that they all faced.
May 29th, 2012 at 5:37 pmThe Tigers’ starting infield this year is pretty poor as well.
May 29th, 2012 at 5:37 pmYeah, I’m thinking Pastornicky gets the rest of May before the Braves make a change there. But I’m thinking if he doesn’t start hitting a change will be made.
May 29th, 2012 at 5:41 pm@113
So, like two games?
May 29th, 2012 at 5:42 pmI don’t mind the Constanza move, either. They needed another bench player and he can add a pinch-runner and late defensive replacement. And he might hit some singles.
May 29th, 2012 at 5:43 pmBeing the worst defensive SS in MLB and sporting a .289OBP = Not the best way to have a long career in the majors.
May 29th, 2012 at 5:43 pm114 — Damn, May is almost over, isn’t it?
May 29th, 2012 at 5:44 pmPastornicky would be a good utility guy and play in spurts.
May 29th, 2012 at 5:44 pmHe’d be cheaper than Wilson for sure. When is Gattis due back from the DL? Maybe it’s time to raid AA.
May 29th, 2012 at 5:47 pm118- In Mississippi, maybe. He can’t hit for average, has no power, can’t field shortstop, and isn’t a good runner. Other than that, yeah, he’s a fine utility infielder.
May 29th, 2012 at 5:48 pmAnd it would definitely be Minor’s spot in the rotation Medlen would replace, barring any more injuries.
Randall Delgado hasn’t been that bad. You’ll take a 4.50 ERA from a back of the rotation starter.
May 29th, 2012 at 5:57 pmTo paraphrase Richard Hell, Pastornicky should play in spurts, and in dangerous flirts. His defense murders your heart.
They didn’t tell you that part.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uo_88u0JGSo
May 29th, 2012 at 6:07 pmDon’t panic, Randall.
May 29th, 2012 at 6:15 pmNice.
May 29th, 2012 at 6:18 pmChip: “Fredi batted the pitcher 8th a lot last year!”
No, Chip, you are wrong. It happened, what, 4 times?
May 29th, 2012 at 6:21 pmBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOURN!
May 29th, 2012 at 6:22 pmPay the man!
May 29th, 2012 at 6:22 pmBraves14, it happened 3 times: August 1, August 3, and August 5.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/ATL/2011-batting-orders.shtml
May 29th, 2012 at 6:23 pmHULK SMASH
May 29th, 2012 at 6:24 pmThanks, AAR. I wasn’t quite sure how to look it up.
May 29th, 2012 at 6:30 pmDelgado looks like a pitcher.
May 29th, 2012 at 6:33 pmA real middle infield makes that double play.
May 29th, 2012 at 6:36 pmSo far, so good.
May 29th, 2012 at 6:38 pmOn the first pitch Tyler Pastornicky hits into a double play. Good effort, kid.
May 29th, 2012 at 6:42 pmThanks, Tyler. We knew we could count on you!… to completely suck.
May 29th, 2012 at 6:42 pmHow long does it take to get from the TED to Gwinett? I think Pastornicky just bought a ticket.
May 29th, 2012 at 6:43 pmI have this horrible feeling that we’re stuck with Tyler all year no matter what. I really hope I’m wrong.
May 29th, 2012 at 6:45 pmTyler Lockhart
May 29th, 2012 at 6:46 pm138- That’s grossly unfair to Lockhart. He was a competent fielder and could hit a little for a while.
May 29th, 2012 at 6:48 pmI will stuff Pastornicky into a locker and throw him off a boat before I suffer watching him do what he thinks of as playing baseball for much longer.
May 29th, 2012 at 6:48 pmNice inning.
May 29th, 2012 at 6:49 pm140 — Tell us how you really feel.
May 29th, 2012 at 6:49 pmI don’t even know who you are any more, Brian.
May 29th, 2012 at 6:50 pm@143 Well, right now Tyler is at -1.3 WAR. I don’t think Lockhart was ever that bad for a year.
May 29th, 2012 at 6:52 pmFine. Tyler Graffanino.
May 29th, 2012 at 6:54 pmOh come on, AAR. Lockhart wasn’t brilliant, but he was Rogers Hornsby compared to Pastornicky. Lockhart only had one sub-replacement year as a Brave (-0.4 WAR in 2001, saith B-R). Also, Cox used him sensibly, usually as a benchie rather than as an unprepared starter.
May 29th, 2012 at 6:55 pmWhew.
May 29th, 2012 at 6:55 pmBut Tyler hasn’t been that bad for a year, either.
I mean, yes, he’s been awful, but he hasn’t been an abomination of playing time for six seasons yet.
May 29th, 2012 at 6:56 pmHow about Corky Pastornicky?
May 29th, 2012 at 6:57 pmIsn’t WAR a counting stat? So Pastornicky’s will get worse the more he plays.
May 29th, 2012 at 6:58 pmIt really, really doesn’t make sense to use WAR to assess a guy who has been a starting player for two months.
Keith Lockhart was a below-average above-replacement player whom Bobby Cox leaned on way, way too much for years. Tyler Pastornicky is an overmatched rookie who has been a starter for all of two months. No, Keith Lockhart never had a full season this bad, but neither has Tyler — and I’m pretty sure that Lockhart had some godawful months, because I was alive then.
I think Tyler should probably be back in the minors and I’m about 48 hours from saying that Andrelton should be the starter, but I’m not about to say that Tyler’s worse than Keith Lockhart.
C’mon.
May 29th, 2012 at 6:58 pmThat’s it, Braves14! The new Hamster!
But then what would we call Boscan?
May 29th, 2012 at 6:59 pmGOGOGOGOGOGOOGOGOGGO!!!!!
May 29th, 2012 at 7:00 pmYES!
May 29th, 2012 at 7:01 pmWoo-hoo! That’s a week’s worth of runs!
May 29th, 2012 at 7:01 pmJ.C. Bako?
May 29th, 2012 at 7:01 pmMy heart swells with love for Dan Uggla.
May 29th, 2012 at 7:01 pmITS ALIIIIIVVVVEEEEEEEE
May 29th, 2012 at 7:03 pmCareful, folks. What did Mac tell us about hope?
May 29th, 2012 at 7:04 pmOk, now let’s not blow the lead.
May 29th, 2012 at 7:04 pmRecap will be up in the morning, BTW.
May 29th, 2012 at 7:07 pmHere we go.
May 29th, 2012 at 7:11 pmInopportune time for an Episode, Randall.
May 29th, 2012 at 7:11 pmIt’s hard to decide if Delgado or Minor makes me hate this team more.
May 29th, 2012 at 7:11 pmI blame Pastornicky.
May 29th, 2012 at 7:12 pmI thought that was a double play when Molina hit it.
May 29th, 2012 at 7:12 pmPrescription here would be the double-play pitch.
May 29th, 2012 at 7:12 pmTyler should’ve had that.
May 29th, 2012 at 7:13 pmWay to curse on the air, David.
May 29th, 2012 at 7:13 pmWatching Pastornicky miss that ball was painful.
May 29th, 2012 at 7:14 pmLike the sarcastic-sounding way in which Ross called Simpson and Caray’s broadcast “entertaining.”
May 29th, 2012 at 7:14 pmPastornicky doesn’t have the reflexes to play in or the arm to play deep in the hole.
May 29th, 2012 at 7:15 pmPutting the tying run on base is not the best move. Geez.
May 29th, 2012 at 7:17 pmGet ‘em back, guys.
May 29th, 2012 at 7:19 pmWatching Pastornicky swing the bat is painful.
May 29th, 2012 at 7:24 pmTyler’s consistent, you gotta agree. Equally skilled in every facet of the game!
May 29th, 2012 at 7:24 pmI wish Tyler well … away from Turner Field.
May 29th, 2012 at 7:25 pmAll 3 ABs that inning were pitiful.
May 29th, 2012 at 7:27 pmPastornicky didn’t look this hopelessly inept when he first came up. I would wager that he has lost his confidence — which would be unsurprising, considering that we have lost confidence in him, too, and he has plenty of good reason to have lost confidence in himself. He doesn’t just have to contend with the fact that he has fringe-average tools. He also has to deal with the mental.
And now Delgado is back to that thing where he can’t find the strike zone. Sigh.
May 29th, 2012 at 7:29 pmCorky Pastornicky is clearly the new “Whipping Boy.”
May 29th, 2012 at 7:31 pmThat one was sad.
May 29th, 2012 at 7:31 pmAnd another ball goes right through the wickets. God, he’s terrible.
May 29th, 2012 at 7:32 pmSimple game, Tyler: catch it and throw it.
May 29th, 2012 at 7:32 pmOh my god. Every inning.
May 29th, 2012 at 7:32 pmTyler should be a second baseman. He should have been moved there years ago.
May 29th, 2012 at 7:33 pmOkay, I’m on the Andrelton bandwagon now.
May 29th, 2012 at 7:33 pmWhat surprises me is that the guys in the booth never talk about how bad he’s playing.
May 29th, 2012 at 7:35 pmOfficial now. Uggla’s been solid tonight.
May 29th, 2012 at 7:35 pmIt’s kind of amazing that the scorekeeper didn’t give Tyler an error on that play. He literally had to move three steps to his left. I mean, it was up the middle, but that’s where he was shifted.
May 29th, 2012 at 7:36 pmGeorgie!
May 29th, 2012 at 7:37 pmWell, Constanza just earned an everday job
May 29th, 2012 at 7:38 pmLet Constanza play short!
May 29th, 2012 at 7:40 pmMaybe he can play short.
May 29th, 2012 at 7:41 pmI owe you a Coke, Bethany.
May 29th, 2012 at 7:42 pmPlease don’t hit into a DP.
May 29th, 2012 at 7:43 pmWhat’s the opposite of silencing your critics? Amplifying? Pastornicky is amplifying.
May 29th, 2012 at 7:43 pmThanks, Westbrook!
May 29th, 2012 at 7:43 pm@196, Worse, he’s spawning critics.
May 29th, 2012 at 7:44 pmHahahaha, we’ll split one Rob.
May 29th, 2012 at 7:45 pmHe’s feeding delicious sweetmeats to his critics.
May 29th, 2012 at 7:46 pmNow shut them down, Randall.
May 29th, 2012 at 7:47 pmHe gives his critics bullhorns and free advertising.
May 29th, 2012 at 7:48 pmGeorgie could run the ball to first better than Tyler can throw
May 29th, 2012 at 7:49 pmMolina may be earning his bucks this year.
May 29th, 2012 at 7:50 pmDoc Watson has died.
What can one say that has not been said?
May 29th, 2012 at 7:51 pmRandall, you can’t let up when we give you more runs.
May 29th, 2012 at 7:51 pmThis is random…but it’s really cool how Martin Prado was never much of a prospect and how he has become an All-Star caliber player.
May 29th, 2012 at 7:52 pmSpike, quick primer for an ignoramus: what do I need to listen to right now to appreciate the man?
May 29th, 2012 at 7:54 pmOh dear God.
May 29th, 2012 at 7:54 pmDurbin???
Play good defense, Braves, and get Delgado a win.
May 29th, 2012 at 7:55 pmDoc Watson could pick it.
May 29th, 2012 at 7:56 pmOne more, Durbin. No hanging, Chad.
May 29th, 2012 at 7:59 pmPastornicky…ugh.
May 29th, 2012 at 8:01 pmThis might be Tyler’s last game
May 29th, 2012 at 8:01 pmHorse manure.
May 29th, 2012 at 8:02 pmIt’s Brooks Conrad without the heroics.
May 29th, 2012 at 8:02 pmYou remember when we used to say that the word “Prado” meant a bad defensive play that wasn’t ruled an error?
Yeah… we should call that a “Tyler.”
May 29th, 2012 at 8:02 pm214 — Let’s hope so. With Hudson pitching tomorrow at least he’ll be out for sure.
May 29th, 2012 at 8:02 pm216 — But that’s not fair to Conrad, who can hit.
May 29th, 2012 at 8:04 pmMy favorite – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VAbrnjdtYw
Just follow the links – you can’t go wrong. All of the Vanguard records especially the live double album “Live in Nashville – Good Deal!” are wonderful.
May 29th, 2012 at 8:04 pmIf Durbin loses this lead, I will cry.
May 29th, 2012 at 8:04 pmTim Hudson is the only pitcher in history to have his own personal shortstop
Good work Durbin
May 29th, 2012 at 8:05 pmIn case you hadn’t noticed, Durbin hasn’t allowed a run since May 7.
May 29th, 2012 at 8:05 pmWhew. Way to make us sweat. I can’t believe it’s only the 6th.
May 29th, 2012 at 8:05 pmDurbin the hero!
May 29th, 2012 at 8:05 pm@219 Very true. He was also a guy who was clearly meant to be a bench player, like Tyler. Hell, is Tyler even good enough to be a bench player?
May 29th, 2012 at 8:06 pmI think it is time for a double switch here with Wilson
May 29th, 2012 at 8:07 pmHe hasn’t even allowed a hit since May 7.
I still don’t trust him, but hey, it’s a lot better than him being terrible.
May 29th, 2012 at 8:07 pmBowman on Durbin:
May 29th, 2012 at 8:09 pmLast 9 appearances: 6.1 IP 0 R 1 H 8 Ks 2 BBs
227- I think you’re right.
May 29th, 2012 at 8:10 pmHinske is a really streaky hitter and is going through one of his spells.
May 29th, 2012 at 8:10 pmJason will be okay. Jason will be okay. Repeat and rinse.
May 29th, 2012 at 8:12 pm@231
That is why he isn’t an everyday player. Same with Ross, they are expsoed after 4-5 games.
May 29th, 2012 at 8:12 pmOne-pitch groundout. Gee, every time I think I’m being a bit rough on Tyler, he convinces me that I’m being too nice.
May 29th, 2012 at 8:12 pmPastornicky grounds out on the first pitch again. It’s not just that he’s 0-3, it’s that he’s 0-3 while having seen a grand total of seven pitches, five of which came during a strikeout in the fourth inning.
May 29th, 2012 at 8:13 pmAt least Gonzo saved runs
May 29th, 2012 at 8:14 pmYep, double switch to bring in Venters and Wilson.
May 29th, 2012 at 8:14 pmI never want to see Tyler Pastornicky again.
May 29th, 2012 at 8:14 pmVenters coming in and Wilson to short
May 29th, 2012 at 8:14 pmWill the real Venters please show up.
May 29th, 2012 at 8:14 pmVenters will get two quick outs and the fun will start
May 29th, 2012 at 8:16 pmUggla has more range that Tyler
May 29th, 2012 at 8:18 pmSuddenly, I wish you hadn’t said that, Smitty.
May 29th, 2012 at 8:19 pmAs predicted at 241
May 29th, 2012 at 8:19 pmHow did Uggla get to that ball and not Tyler?
May 29th, 2012 at 8:19 pmVenters is a ball magnet.
May 29th, 2012 at 8:19 pmHe’s Jon Venters, yes, Jonny Venters
He makes every game a whole new adventure
So won’t the real Jon Venters please show up, please show up, please show up?
He’s Jon Venters, yes, Jonny Venters
He might be hurt, at least so I’d venture
So won’t the real Jon Venters please show up, please show up, please show up?
May 29th, 2012 at 8:19 pmWilson is in at short
May 29th, 2012 at 8:20 pmCome on, Johnny. Get one more out, please.
May 29th, 2012 at 8:21 pmVenters will get two quick outs and the fun will start
What’s next, Nostradamus?
May 29th, 2012 at 8:21 pmOh my god.
May 29th, 2012 at 8:21 pmThese have all been groundballs that have found holes, if that’s any consolation.
May 29th, 2012 at 8:22 pmMcDowell might be on the hot seat
May 29th, 2012 at 8:22 pmSo is Pastornicky the new official whipping boy, or is it still Durbin?
May 29th, 2012 at 8:23 pmWell damn.
May 29th, 2012 at 8:23 pmNo, Braves14, Yadier Molina’s single to right was a clear line drive.
May 29th, 2012 at 8:23 pmAnother stressful inning. My heart will explode with two more of these.
May 29th, 2012 at 8:23 pmThere’s Johnny
May 29th, 2012 at 8:23 pmWoo-hoo! Now get some runs, Braves.
May 29th, 2012 at 8:23 pmIf we possition our SS and 2B up the middle when Venter’s pitches, we might be better off.
May 29th, 2012 at 8:24 pmVenters had a .449 BABIP going into tonight’s game.
May 29th, 2012 at 8:25 pmAnd that is as hard as Jack Wilson can hit the ball.
May 29th, 2012 at 8:26 pmConstanza looks like he’s sitting on the toilet with that stance.
May 29th, 2012 at 8:28 pmThat was quick.
May 29th, 2012 at 8:28 pmO’Flaherty has been much better of late.
May 29th, 2012 at 8:35 pmGood inning, Eric.
May 29th, 2012 at 8:35 pmAnd next it’ll be time for our closer, What’s His Face. You know, that guy we used when this team was good.
May 29th, 2012 at 8:36 pmI think his name is… Brad Clontz? Could that be right?
May 29th, 2012 at 8:41 pmCould’ve sworn it was Mark Wohlers.
May 29th, 2012 at 8:43 pmKimbrel time.
May 29th, 2012 at 8:44 pmWhat’s worse- Chip guessing Kent Mercker as the last Brave to have 200 Ks in a season, or Chip guessing Larry Walker as the last Cardinal to have 30 SB in a season?
May 29th, 2012 at 8:45 pmMercker, definitely. Walker stole 33 in 1997.
May 29th, 2012 at 8:45 pmGuessing Walker is pretty damn bad though, seeing as how he was a Cardinal only in the last leg of his career.
May 29th, 2012 at 8:48 pmYea that was like 8 years before he was a Cardinal for a season and a half.
May 29th, 2012 at 8:49 pm100 MPH. Still gotta love that speed. Control needs a bit of polish, but Craig’s still not yet what he’ll become.
May 29th, 2012 at 8:53 pmAnd … breathe
May 29th, 2012 at 8:54 pmAnd the Braves’ streak is one.
May 29th, 2012 at 8:54 pmA win! I forgot what that felt like.
So do we start calling them Vent O’Brel?
May 29th, 2012 at 8:54 pmHey, a win!
Guy Clark on Doc Watson: “I have seen the David, seen the Mona Lisa too, and I have heard Doc Watson sing ‘Columbus Stockade Blues’.”
http://tinyurl.com/6n5qzrd
May 29th, 2012 at 8:55 pmIn Skip’s voice: “Braves win!”
May 29th, 2012 at 8:55 pmThank goodness.
May 29th, 2012 at 8:55 pmWashington just lost, so we’re only 3 out, despite everything.
May 29th, 2012 at 8:58 pmLevon, Duck Dunn and now Doc Watson. Lost some true giants lately.
May 29th, 2012 at 9:00 pmDoug Dillard too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRsjszrf8xA&feature=fvwrel
May 29th, 2012 at 9:06 pmBy the way, an interesting story, in case you hadn’t seen it yet: the cease-and-desisting of the “Barves” logo:
http://www.good.is/post/why-does-major-league-baseball-keep-killing-fans-memes/
May 29th, 2012 at 9:11 pmDon’t forget Earl Scruggs.
May 29th, 2012 at 9:12 pmIntellectual property, how does it work?
May 29th, 2012 at 9:18 pmAnd Chuck Brown, for those who like to get your groove on:
http://tinyurl.com/d28v9l
May 29th, 2012 at 9:21 pmI really regret living in DC for five years and never going to a Chuck Brown show.
Speaking of intellectual property, here’s The Three Pickers, with Earl Scruggs, Doc Watson, and Ricky Skaggs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZ8_rKhEMQY
May 29th, 2012 at 9:25 pmForgot about Chuck Brown. That guy was a pioneer, for sure. And yet, most people wouldn’t know a Go-Go tune if it bit them. Which it might.
May 29th, 2012 at 9:26 pmOh man, I was in DC when it happened, literally and metaphorically. Great thing to see in it’s day.
May 29th, 2012 at 9:27 pmTrouble Funk or E.U., Spike?
May 29th, 2012 at 9:34 pmI’ll bet. Wow. It’s like DC made ‘Nawlins funk even nastier. Must have been amazing.
May 29th, 2012 at 9:36 pmTrouble Funk for me.
Saturday Night Live in Washington, D.C. is still on my turntable.
May 29th, 2012 at 9:44 pmMe too. Loved them.
May 29th, 2012 at 9:47 pmSo apparently they are not going to go all season without winning another game. So that’s good.
May 29th, 2012 at 10:34 pmBullpen ERAs over their last 10 games are below. Since Kimbrel has only pitched 3 of the last 10 games, it’s realistic to say that Durbin has been our most effective righty during that time span. He has actually not allowed an earned run in his last 9 appearances.
Combine the performances below with our hitting woes and it’s not hard to understand why we lost 8 in a row. Add some very bad starting pitching and it’s been painful. Of course, I don’t need to remind you guys!
O’Flaherty 1.08
May 29th, 2012 at 10:49 pmKimbrel 2.70
Durbin 3.52
Hernandez 3.95
Martinez 4.40
Medlen 4.63
Venters 5.63
I’ve been assured by people who know that Chad Durbin can’t possibly be useful.
May 29th, 2012 at 10:52 pmAn item for Ripley’s, the hit Durbin allowed tonight was his first in 8 outings. He has now allowed only 1 hit and no earned runs in 6 and 1/3 innings (9 appearances).
May 29th, 2012 at 10:52 pm@298 Really, that’s what people said? Cause all I remember was people saying that Durbin was sucking, which he was, and therefore shouldn’t be used in situations where you need someone who doesn’t suck.
Now that he’s proven himself not to suck all the time, you can certainly say he’s earned more responsibility. But that hardly requires use of such a snarky strawman.
May 29th, 2012 at 11:28 pmSam, who are you going to believe about Chad Durbin, me or your lyin’ eyes?
May 29th, 2012 at 11:35 pmIf one never followed the Braves or baseball this year, and read Sam’s posts here, they’d probably think that Durbin was pitching lights-out and people were still irrationally bashing him. Instead of what was actually happening.
May 30th, 2012 at 7:57 amReading this thread…I feel pretty bad for Tyler Pastornicky.
But, Free Andrelton.
May 30th, 2012 at 8:12 amThis game just shows the importance of starting pitching. The Braves didn’t do all that much after the early innings, but a bad outing by Westbrook put the Cardinals in the hole and the Braves hang on. If the Braves’ starting pitching had been better, they could have won at least a couple of the games they lost. In the 90s, that often happened; team would struggle but being able to throw out Maddux/Glavine/Smoltz meant that they would still win some games even when not playing well overall. Fredi doesn’t have that luxury other than maybe Hudson when he is healthy. It’s amazing how having three Hall of Fame caliber pitchers can make the game a lot easier.
May 30th, 2012 at 8:25 am@303 – Andrelton is doing pretty well in AA, current slash line is .299/.380/.431 with a reasonable .318 BABIP. He’s developing more power – ISO up to .132 from .097 last year and .079 in ’10 – and still walks more than he strikes out. Moreover, after 26 SB / 18 CS last year, he’s at 10 SB / 2 CS this year. All in all, solid improvement across the board.
I’m guessing the Braves will want to keep Andrelton down a little while longer so he misses the cutoff for Super 2 eligibility. The CBA changes made it slightly easier to qualify for Super 2 status, so the Braves would probably have to keep Andrelton in the minors for another month or so to be safe.
May 30th, 2012 at 8:46 am@299
td, If we had a decent shortstop, that wouldn’t have been a hit.
May 30th, 2012 at 9:10 amRecap.
May 30th, 2012 at 9:35 am