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So about the Lowe/KK problem… was Smoltz part of the organization on 8/31? Imagine Smoltzy cranking it up one more time for Bobby down the stretch.
September 5th, 2010 at 8:07 amFrom the previous thread:
@17: “Only teams I really hate are the Dodgers, Yankees, and Marlins.”
I dislike those teams, but I hate the Phillies more, because I have to live in the Philly area and am inundated with them.
Example: Last night, on the local sports cable station, Ricky Bottalico said this, and I’m quoting almost verbatim: “Phillies are only one game out . . . that’s a virtual tie. When they play [two weeks from now!!!] and the Phillies take the first game, it will be tied. But it’s nice that they are getting some distance in the Wild Card race. You know what would be interesting? If the Phillies passed the Braves and then the Braves didn’t make the playoffs. That would be a great way to send Bobby Cox off . . .”
This suggests to me that “Buttalico” is as classy a commentator as the organization he covers–and that he and other Phillies fans are scared of the Braves. I also catch a whiff of this idea that the Braves have been out of line by playing well enough to challenge the Phils. Ever since the Phillies won the WS two years ago, their fans have a huge sense of entitlement–like many Red Sox fans developed after 2004.
One of my favorite bands is the Canadian group Sloan, and they have a song that says, “It’s not the band I hate–it’s their fans.” So, maybe I hate Phillies fans more than the team. Nah . . . I hate them both.
September 5th, 2010 at 8:12 amWow, Mac.
The Marlins are a pissy bitch organization. I hope they aren’t mad we won last night, they might throw a temper-tantrum.
I have to say, I never like the Marlins, but they are catching the Dodgers and Mets on my levels of dislike.
September 5th, 2010 at 8:14 amarodys vizcaino pitched last night. i thought he was shut down for the year. anyone have new info on him?
September 5th, 2010 at 8:26 amI’ve had no love in my heart for the Phillies since their fans threw batteries at the Braves’ players after Philadelphia won the 1993 NLCS. I think the Braves got hit when they were boarding the bus or something.
September 5th, 2010 at 9:10 amHe’s pitched a couple times. I think they were going to try to rest the arm to avoid surgery, and it looks like they have, at least to this point. (He did avoid surgery, right? Am I making that up?)
September 5th, 2010 at 9:11 am1. Infante 2B, 2. Heyward RF, 3. Prado 3B, 4. McCann C, 5. Glaus 1B, 6. Gonzalez SS, 7. Cabrera LF, 8. McLouth CF, 9. Minor
i’m actually glad to see mclouth getting a start. i hope he can do a little rebounding and bring some stability to a very unstable position. we know he can at least take a walk.
glaus is starting as well. lee really cant be defended right now, so i hope this is a wakeup call to him.
September 5th, 2010 at 9:21 amI’m not surprised to see Lee sitting against the righty, but I’m VERY surprised to see Glaus instead of Freeman.
September 5th, 2010 at 9:26 am4—He was just shut down for a couple of months, which I believe was the plan all along.
6—Right, he hasn’t had surgery.
September 5th, 2010 at 10:10 amLoria should be booted from MLB after what he did to the Expos and what he is currently doing to the Marlins. I find it difficult to hate them based on they’ve been through (but I still manage some strong dislike).
Yankees and Red Sox are quite deserving of eternal hatred. Phillies haven’t been worth caring about except for the last couple of years. I’m willing to bet that given two or three years, they’ll resume their rightful place with the Mets sniffing the Braves’ collective butts and hoping they can score a wild card berth.
September 5th, 2010 at 10:24 am@10, You know, I used to hate Sox fans as much as you guys, but after visiting Fenway and talking with some really cool fans, I’m reconsidering. The Yankees and their fans are hands down the worst.
September 5th, 2010 at 10:26 amI used to feel some sympathy for them (Red Sox fans) for being the Yankees’ bitches and for going enough time between championships for completely new life forms to evolve and go extinct, but man, they got snobby really quickly after they won. Screw them. I hope they get used to being the Ray’s bitches for the next century.
This is also why I hope the Cubs never win in my lifetime. I’m positive Cubs’ fans will be insufferable.
September 5th, 2010 at 10:37 amyeah, Im kinda glad to see Nate and Glaus back in there. Ankiel should never start against a LH’r again. There is no reason not to start Melky and Diaz in that situation. Lee looks done, hopefully Bobby has recognized that or this gets Lee’s attention
September 5th, 2010 at 11:09 am@2: I hear you. I used to like the Cubs, before I lived in Illinois. Now I can’t stand them, all because of their insufferable fans. One of my favorite memories is of sitting on my front porch after the Bartman game, watching all the Cubs fans exit the bar across the street, silent, heads down, as if leaving a funeral.
@12: Cubs fans are already insufferable. I can’t imagine what a WS win would do to them.
And yet, I hate the Marlins most of all. More than the Dodgers, more than the Cardinals. Pure evil indeed.
September 5th, 2010 at 11:10 ammy baseball hatred is focused on just a few…Larussa (not the team) Mets, Phillies, Red Sox, Ted Lilly, umpires, and Yanks. For me, every other team is tolerable. I hate playing the Marlins, Nats, Col, and St Louis, but I dont actually hate their teams.
September 5th, 2010 at 11:15 amWhy is this game starting so early? Do the Marlins think it will help attendance? Instead of getting 2,500 they’ll get 2,600?
September 5th, 2010 at 11:26 amGreat, more bad umpires.
September 5th, 2010 at 11:33 amRandy,
It’s because this is the most piss poor run organization in baseball.
September 5th, 2010 at 11:35 amWe might be out of this game before Noon Central time.
September 5th, 2010 at 11:46 amc’mon everybody hits…let’s get this under control Mike
September 5th, 2010 at 11:46 amOnly the Marlins’ bad baserunning is keeping them from completely blowing this one open.
September 5th, 2010 at 11:49 amI feel ill. Let’s try to keep this at 3 runs, ok Minor? Stop grooving pitches to an aggressive team.
September 5th, 2010 at 11:50 amNate’s spit travels farther than balls he hits.
September 5th, 2010 at 11:53 amWhat do we do about McLouth?
September 5th, 2010 at 11:54 amOnce again making a terrible pitcher look like an ace.
September 5th, 2010 at 11:55 amWe must have 3 O’clock reservations at Joe’s Crab Shack.
September 5th, 2010 at 11:56 amMCLOUTH IS HORRIBLE
September 5th, 2010 at 11:56 am@ 24
September 5th, 2010 at 11:57 amput him down
I only watch Braves’ games, so tell me how is Bonifacio not the next Ty Cobb? He must hit .600 against us.
September 5th, 2010 at 11:59 amWell, that was an improvement, Morrison didn’t triple this time.
September 5th, 2010 at 12:01 pmEleven Marlins batters, five extra-base hits. Maybe we’d better just plan on a three-man playoff rotation.
September 5th, 2010 at 12:01 pmOk, I’m done.
September 5th, 2010 at 12:01 pmMinor is getting rocked.
September 5th, 2010 at 12:02 pmCabrera makes Garret Anderson look like Rickey Henderson.
September 5th, 2010 at 12:02 pmyou’ve got to be kidding me…Bobby, that’s the clue phone ringing!
September 5th, 2010 at 12:02 pmA dozen years ago, I interned with a professional sports team, a part of a five college-kid group working in various departments. Three of us, myself included, ended up parlaying the gig into full-time jobs somewhere in the big four sports. One member of the group was a supremely arrogant, generally loathsome individual. In a symphonic marriage of person and organization, he was hired by the Marlins.
They are detestable, from the top down. I loathe some teams, but the Marlins are the only one whose right to exist I call into question, which dates back to the 1991 expansion and their subsequent behind-the-scenes efforts to prevent my hometown from getting a team via expansion or relocation.
I hate the Marlins with the fire of a thousand suns, far more than the Mets and Phillies combined.
@18
12:02 p.m. CDT.
September 5th, 2010 at 12:03 pmI seriously just tuned in thinking the game would be starting soon. Instead, it’s 6-0 Marlins. I’m confused and angry, though on the bright side I can go on with my day now.
September 5th, 2010 at 12:03 pmAnd yet, we can’t score against a major league debut pitcher whose ERA was pushing 4.00 at AAA. Wait..wrong game…. that kid is pitching in the double header… STill… I’m kind of disgusted…
Why would you trot out a lineup with Glaus and McLouth in the middle of a pennant race
September 5th, 2010 at 12:07 pmWhy would you trot out a lineup with Melky Cabrera AND Nate McLouth in it? I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: it really is scary that the Braves seem not to understand just how bad these guys have been. I appreciate how effective the scouting is, and how they have managed, with their uniquely good talent evaluation to build an impressive system time and again. But there is something wrong when you fail to recognize that Melky Cabrera and Nate McLouth should never be in the game at the same time. The point is to limit your liabilities, not pretend that they don’t exist.
September 5th, 2010 at 12:11 pmAnd another thing- why does Bobby keep batting our worthless 1B fifth? He knows they’re not hitting, which is why he constantly switches from one to another, so why isn’t he concluding that they need to bat 7th or 8th?
September 5th, 2010 at 12:14 pmThe Marlins announcers have said that the Braves have disabled the camera in their dugout, that someone must have hit it. That leaves McLouth out as a suspect.
September 5th, 2010 at 12:16 pmThe Marlins announcers just implied that one of the Braves hit the camera in the dugout with a bat. Is that true?
September 5th, 2010 at 12:17 pm41- And Ankiel, Cabrera, Freeman, Glaus, Lee… man, that doesn’t leave many suspects.
September 5th, 2010 at 12:17 pmSo, is Minor’s plan to make them run the bases ’til they get exhausted? Because I don’t think it will work.
September 5th, 2010 at 12:22 pm41: I just spit my water. lol
September 5th, 2010 at 12:24 pm@44 I’ve tried that strategy before to no avail.
September 5th, 2010 at 12:26 pmThe fifth inning will be like the old joke, where the grounds crew will be dragging the warning track.
September 5th, 2010 at 12:28 pmAnyone other than AAG going to show up?
September 5th, 2010 at 12:30 pmLouth tries to fail, and fails.
September 5th, 2010 at 12:33 pmNate just had a big smile on his face at second base after his double, getting up to .170 on the season will do that for you.
September 5th, 2010 at 12:33 pmMinor has had a bad day, but for me, the primary issue remains the lineup’s deficiencies. They will not do much in the postseason with such awful production from 1B, CF, and LF, and with an almost complete inability to hit lefties.
If it was me, I’d probably platoon Diaz and Hinske in LF, let Ankiel play CF so at least we get something approximating league average defense, and commit to either Lee or Freeman at 1B. Glaus and McLouth are done, and Melky sucks at all facets of the game. But really, there are just too many replacement-level guys (or worse) getting run, and that includes some of the players who we probably consider “obvious starts.”
September 5th, 2010 at 12:34 pmLogan Morrison is like, Pujols.
September 5th, 2010 at 12:40 pmFat crybaby saves the day. 3-0 Brew Crew
September 5th, 2010 at 12:46 pm3-0 Brewers on a Prince Fielder HR.
September 5th, 2010 at 12:46 pm51,
September 5th, 2010 at 12:59 pmI agree with your plan, but I’d also platoon Freeman and Lee.
Surprised they sent back out the sore-shouldered Moylan after a rain delay.
September 5th, 2010 at 1:06 pmMark Graybill, I’m totally with you on Sloan! The song you quoted is from one of their best albums, “Twice Removed.”
Hey, Troy, thanks for showing up today.
September 5th, 2010 at 1:06 pmEvidently Glaus does nothing well anymore.
September 5th, 2010 at 1:07 pmSo you know what is total BS at this point in the pennant race? The fact that Philly:
1. Had an entire game gifted to them on a blown foul ball call.
September 5th, 2010 at 1:10 pm2. Had three extra home games and three fewer road games than any other team in baseball.
We could still make a game of this.
edit: They have to intentionally walk McCann here, don’t they?
September 5th, 2010 at 1:18 pmTroy Glaus to kill the rally.
Edit: or not.
September 5th, 2010 at 1:23 pmHopefully with a homer.
September 5th, 2010 at 1:24 pmHe’s probably not going to hit the ball hard enough for a triple play, at least.
I’ll third the affection for Sloan.
September 5th, 2010 at 1:25 pmZOMG Glaus lives.
September 5th, 2010 at 1:25 pmTroy actually hit that like it was back in May.
September 5th, 2010 at 1:26 pmHart just doubled in Weeks. 4-2 Milwaukee.
September 5th, 2010 at 1:27 pmI really wish Alex had leaned into it when they were trying to plunk him.
September 5th, 2010 at 1:27 pmBad break there.
September 5th, 2010 at 1:28 pmLeroux!
September 5th, 2010 at 1:29 pmLet’s get the lead as long as they’re leaving this guy out to dry.
September 5th, 2010 at 1:30 pmI don’t want to remember what happened to McLouth the last time he was in this situation, in this park.
September 5th, 2010 at 1:30 pmHe took away a freaking grand slam.
September 5th, 2010 at 1:31 pmLouth!
September 5th, 2010 at 1:31 pmWOW.
September 5th, 2010 at 1:31 pmWow… Nate hit a grand slam, but the guy reached over the wall and caught the ball.
I guess that pretty much sums up his 2010.
September 5th, 2010 at 1:31 pmHahahahahaha, poor Nate. Looks like Charlie Brown.
September 5th, 2010 at 1:31 pmWow. Maybin is like Andruw out there.
September 5th, 2010 at 1:32 pmI hate this stadium!
September 5th, 2010 at 1:32 pmCome on Freddie!!!!
September 5th, 2010 at 1:32 pmWow! Maybe McLouth did break that camera.
September 5th, 2010 at 1:32 pmI’m still pulling for Nate. I hope he can come around.
Pulling back a grandslam?!? Ugh. Painful.
September 5th, 2010 at 1:33 pmI said it last Sunday, I’ll say it again: anyone who stops watching this team is not a fan.
September 5th, 2010 at 1:33 pmOkay, boys, it’s a ballgame again. 6-6.
September 5th, 2010 at 1:33 pmWell shoot. If not for two great defensive plays we could have had even more.
September 5th, 2010 at 1:33 pmAnd right as I praised Maybin’s defense, he threw to the wrong cutoff guy to allow 2 runs to score on a sac fly.
September 5th, 2010 at 1:33 pmMy hat is off to Nate. And pinch running for Glaus really paid off there.
September 5th, 2010 at 1:34 pmOf course, it is amazing how many of these fans are actually rooting against their own players….
September 5th, 2010 at 1:34 pmWe’re rooting for them, CapTang. It’s just that with many of them, we know not to expect what we hope for.
September 5th, 2010 at 1:36 pmThat was all so crazy.
September 5th, 2010 at 1:37 pmFarnsworth on to make sure we dont keep the lead. Nate hit that one a long long way. Its probably a HR anywhere outside of here and Citi
September 5th, 2010 at 1:38 pm88 — Your not a real fan!!!!!11111
September 5th, 2010 at 1:39 pmNice inning by Farnsworth.
September 5th, 2010 at 1:43 pmFarnworth pitching well in a tight game? ….
September 5th, 2010 at 1:44 pmToo bad for Louth on that one. Nothing like a go ahead grand slam to help out your confidence.
The job in CF is there for the taking… So somebody take it already.
September 5th, 2010 at 1:44 pmWeeks just knocked in Kottaras. 5-2 Brewers.
September 5th, 2010 at 1:50 pmim sure this is the only place where a bat can land in the stands and have less than a 50/50 chance of hitting someone
September 5th, 2010 at 1:56 pm@96 Hehehe.
Blast. Good try by Prado.
September 5th, 2010 at 1:57 pmNice job, Jonny!
September 5th, 2010 at 2:07 pmthats two bats in the seats and neither came within 10 feet of anyone
September 5th, 2010 at 2:07 pmthis stadium is a f!@#$ circus. bats flying into the half empty stands, rain delays, cf wall made of egg cartons, advertisements left and right like a minor league park…..
September 5th, 2010 at 2:08 pm“Kentucky bluegas” is still dumb.
September 5th, 2010 at 2:10 pmI was watching the game in early innings and my takeaway is that Melky is one of the slowest, (or laziest) outfielders I’ve seen in a Braves uniform. How that guy was able to play CF for a world champion team is beyond me.
September 5th, 2010 at 2:10 pmTime for the folk hero to shine.
September 5th, 2010 at 2:11 pmits Saito/Wagner vs Hensley/Nunez now
September 5th, 2010 at 2:11 pmThese umpires are terrible.
September 5th, 2010 at 2:12 pmThe Marlins announcers are such jackasses.
September 5th, 2010 at 2:21 pmnice play JHEY
September 5th, 2010 at 2:21 pmHeyward with a sliding catch at the 11 yard line.
September 5th, 2010 at 2:22 pmone handed catch also
September 5th, 2010 at 2:23 pmankiel wouldve swung at all 3 of those pitches
Nate has 0 luck
September 5th, 2010 at 2:29 pmPoor guy
September 5th, 2010 at 2:29 pmIs it just me, or have the braves had an unusual number of home runs robbed from them this year?
September 5th, 2010 at 2:29 pmAnother freak defensive play.
September 5th, 2010 at 2:29 pmAnd, naturally, Nate gets robbed again.
September 5th, 2010 at 2:30 pmPoor Nate.
September 5th, 2010 at 2:30 pmPoor Nate.
September 5th, 2010 at 2:30 pmLOLOUTH
September 5th, 2010 at 2:30 pmjinx
September 5th, 2010 at 2:30 pmCongratulations, Freddie Freeman! Hit number one!
September 5th, 2010 at 2:30 pmnice job Freddie
September 5th, 2010 at 2:30 pmWow, the Marlins are playing some defense here! Nate should have a GS and another single.
September 5th, 2010 at 2:31 pmFirst hit of many for Freddie Freeman.
September 5th, 2010 at 2:31 pmCongratulations on your first hit, Freddie!
September 5th, 2010 at 2:31 pmwhat a shame to get your first hit in this piece of cow dung stadium.
September 5th, 2010 at 2:31 pmNate deserves better luck, better karma, better something, for the class with which he handled his demotion.
September 5th, 2010 at 2:31 pmOmar – bunts with 2 outs = bad idea
September 5th, 2010 at 2:31 pmI’ll buy you a Coke when we make the playoffs.
September 5th, 2010 at 2:32 pmbatting title hit
September 5th, 2010 at 2:33 pm127 — Sounds good!
September 5th, 2010 at 2:33 pmRick Ankiel running for Freddie Freeman. Is Freeman really that slow?
September 5th, 2010 at 2:34 pmThis is like a minor league park with all of the advertisements. Of course, there’s a minor league sized crowd.
September 5th, 2010 at 2:34 pmDammit Heyward.
September 5th, 2010 at 2:35 pmI guess you shouldn’t have swung 3-0, Jason.
September 5th, 2010 at 2:35 pmYikes.
September 5th, 2010 at 2:35 pmTerrible.
September 5th, 2010 at 2:35 pmOmar is hustling today, just like everyday, but I didn’t realize how well he runs.
September 5th, 2010 at 2:35 pmSo, we have Wagner, O’Flaherty, Proctor, and Dunn left in the bullpen. I’m not sure Dunn’s available after throwing 3 innings in the last 2 days.
September 5th, 2010 at 2:37 pm#131—There’s got to be a number of minor league towns that would support MLB better than Miami.
September 5th, 2010 at 2:37 pmThe problem isn’t Miami. The problem is Huizenga, Loria, and the rest of the scumball owners and front office personnel that the Marlins have employed. They could probably have run the Yankees into the ground by now. On the other hand, a new ownership group could breathe life into the fan base quickly, the way that Tampa Bay’s ownership group has.
September 5th, 2010 at 2:40 pmThere shouldn’t be any MLB teams in the entire state of Florida.
September 5th, 2010 at 2:40 pmSouth Florida isn’t the greatest sports town. I have doubts that they would support a successful team.
September 5th, 2010 at 2:42 pmNice inning.
September 5th, 2010 at 2:44 pmUgh, this umpire is awful.
September 5th, 2010 at 2:49 pmThey support the Canes, Heat and Dolphins when they’re winning — and they did the same during the Marlins’ two championship seasons. They’re a total frontrunner town, but, well, so is Atlanta.
It’s still silly to have an open baseball stadium during the South Florida monsoon season.
EDIT: Good job, Derrek!
September 5th, 2010 at 2:50 pmCOME ON ALEX!
Damn.
September 5th, 2010 at 2:51 pm144 — Good thing the new stadium will have a retractable roof.
September 5th, 2010 at 2:52 pmWell that’s obnoxious.
September 5th, 2010 at 2:53 pmWhat luck
September 5th, 2010 at 2:53 pmThey supported those Marlins teams during the postseason but I’d like to see the regular season attendance figures. Total front running town, yeah. I think the only thing they are genuinely passionate about is the Dolphins.
September 5th, 2010 at 2:55 pmThat looks bad…
September 5th, 2010 at 2:56 pmthis stadium is a fucking circus! i’m telling you!
September 5th, 2010 at 2:56 pmGod, look at how swollen his eye is.
September 5th, 2010 at 2:56 pmMelky sucks.
September 5th, 2010 at 2:57 pmMelky, your worthlessness astounds me.
September 5th, 2010 at 2:57 pmWe’re certainly turning it into a circus.
September 5th, 2010 at 2:57 pmGod dammit Melky
September 5th, 2010 at 2:57 pmLOLMELK
September 5th, 2010 at 2:57 pmScrew Melky. I have never wanted to punch someone this badly in my life.
September 5th, 2010 at 2:57 pmCabrera sucks.
September 5th, 2010 at 2:58 pmA bucket with a braves cap would be a better LF than melky!
September 5th, 2010 at 2:58 pmdid Melky think he had any sort of shot at getting him at second? the only thing Bonifacio does well is RUN.
September 5th, 2010 at 2:58 pmFuck you Melky
September 5th, 2010 at 2:58 pmDammit.
September 5th, 2010 at 2:58 pmThanks for nothing, Melky.
September 5th, 2010 at 2:58 pmGo Brewers. Shit.
September 5th, 2010 at 2:58 pmhard to win with built-in limitations
September 5th, 2010 at 2:59 pmMelky, you silly fat bastard.
September 5th, 2010 at 2:59 pmMaybe Hinske will get to play more in left again.
September 5th, 2010 at 2:59 pmBullshit.
September 5th, 2010 at 2:59 pmStupid melky.
September 5th, 2010 at 2:59 pmMelky is the Marlins MVP
September 5th, 2010 at 3:00 pmmaybe they’ll let Diaz start playing in LF
September 5th, 2010 at 3:01 pmFOTHER MUCKER!
September 5th, 2010 at 3:01 pmMelky is definitely one of my most hated Braves of the last 20 years.
September 5th, 2010 at 3:02 pmBrewers still lead 5-2 in the 8th.
September 5th, 2010 at 3:02 pmReecapped.
September 5th, 2010 at 3:06 pmI left when the score was tied, came back to find out the game was lost. A big-time missed opportunity to gain a game on the Phillies, who are losing right now to the Brewers.
What did Melky do?
September 5th, 2010 at 3:08 pm@177 What did Melky do?
He was just Melky. Livin the dream.
September 5th, 2010 at 4:21 pmB@#$ard.