10 Apr
I used to be disgusted game thread: April 10, Braves at Giants
Yeah, we can blame the umpires, but the umpires weren’t the guys who left all those runners on base.
Yeah, we can blame the umpires, but the umpires weren’t the guys who left all those runners on base.
Hinske played 10 games at 3b last year. Isn’t it supposed to be his top position? Why not him in there against the RHP with Prado shifting back to second?
I do like McLouth being back in the leadoff spot with Melky out of the lineup for Diaz. Also McCann and everyone just moving up a spot in the order is good too.
April 10th, 2010 at 7:13 pmLineups:
Bravos:
McLouth cf
Prado 3b
McCann c
Glaus 1b
Escobar ss
Heyward rf
Diaz lf
Infante 2b
Lowe p
Giants:
April 10th, 2010 at 7:59 pmRowand cf
Renteria ss
Sandoval 3b
Huff 1b
DeRosa lf
Bowker rf
Uribe 2b
Whiteside c
Wellemeyer p
Predictions for Lowe for the day?
5.1 IP, 6 Runs Allowed, 2 Earned, 5 BB, 108 Pitches, W.
April 10th, 2010 at 8:08 pmLowe’s boxscore: 5.0 6 3 3 3 3 ND
April 10th, 2010 at 8:17 pmP. W. Hjort and Johnny, I think the main difference in our thinking is that I can’t see significant difference between Arb 4 and FA money because they are equally expensive in my opinion. However, it seems like the Braves have adopted my side of logic in their decision making. Since we can’t change anything on that now (unless Jason gets sent down later, which I doubt would happen), we will see how that works out.
While we keep asking ourselves who will be Chipper’s replacement (now it should be Edward Salcedo), Prado actually plays much better at third base defensively than second base.
I think we will win tonight simply because Lowe is pitching, not because he will pitch well!!!
April 10th, 2010 at 8:22 pmKC,
I’m intrigued by the concept. It would be cool if someone did a comparison of 4th year arbitration rates for players versus the average yearly value of the contracts they signed after that year. And also, call me ignorant and stupid, but there is something that feels wholesome and correct about calling a player up not when it makes complete financial sense to, but when that player is ready for the big leagues. If we have three outfielders capable of making the impact that Jason is of making, the situation could be viewed differently. But I think that Jason, even in his first year, is capable of making the difference. I’m glad that they called him up, and will continue to be so even when he hits free agency.
April 10th, 2010 at 8:35 pm6,
April 10th, 2010 at 8:48 pmIf you can find me a complete list of super-2 players I’ll do something with it. The only thing I could find is this from MLBTR, which starts at exactly the point where it becomes useless for answering this question (2007).
If Wellemeyer pitches a good game I will be surprised. He had a decent 2008, but 2009 was horrible. His other years have been closer to 2009 – he has a 4.74 lifetime ERA. My thought tonight is Braves 7, Giants 3. Lowe will pitch 7 strong innings and give up 2 runs or less – I hope.
April 10th, 2010 at 8:53 pm@7 It would indeed by an interesting study, which I definitely don’t have time to do being a father of two. I am just remembering the arbitration figures in the past for impact players like Lincecum, Prince, Howard, and Papelbon, they are getting close to receiving market value even before they reach arb3, can you imagine what they would get if they have arb4?
In a way, you can actually argue arb4 can be MORE expensive than FA1 because you can spread a large sum of money over a longer period of time for a free agent contract while Arb4 is a one year contract which compares to the salaries of players with similar stats at that time.
However, I do realize the limitation of my above logic as I don’t have any numbers to back up my thinking.
April 10th, 2010 at 8:56 pmBeing an Astros fan is starting to become synonymous with being a Mets fan. Or am I late to that party?
April 10th, 2010 at 8:59 pmGotta love that .647 batting average of Prado’s…
(Edit) and to hate Glaus’ Francoeur act, grounding into a DP on the first pitch against a struggling pitcher.
April 10th, 2010 at 9:11 pmI’d rather be anything than an Astros fan.
April 10th, 2010 at 9:12 pmAh, the human rally-ender.
April 10th, 2010 at 9:12 pmPW @ 7,
Honestly, you are the expert on this sort of stuff, but I’ll try my best. 5 years of service time makes a Super Two, correct? That would mean that if a player promoted early in 2002-
http://www.baseball-almanac.com/yearly/debut.php?y=2002&l=NL&s=D
(List is sorted by debut)
is arbitration eligible with five years of service time in 2007, then they would have to have been a super two, correct?-
http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/2000/04/2006-07-arbitration-eligibles.html
List A will show you player debuts, and list B will show arbitration contract information with service time. Wouldn’t be a whole lot of data, but it would be enough for interesting study, I think. If you can do this, it would be way cool. Thanks!
April 10th, 2010 at 9:12 pmA Super Two is someone in his third year of ML service time — less than three, but more than two, and in the top something percent of people in that year.
April 10th, 2010 at 9:13 pmYou are missing part of the larger point, KC – at Arb 4, if we let him walk we get picks. And if we offer arb and accept, he has to stay if we want him. This has value, quantifiable monetary value.
April 10th, 2010 at 9:13 pmPhillies win.
Houston is as bad at baseball as their city is fat.
April 10th, 2010 at 9:15 pmChip is such a douche.
April 10th, 2010 at 9:17 pmStop peaking at the catcher, Edgar.
April 10th, 2010 at 9:19 pmMac @ 15,
Yeah, I’m really not good at this stuff at all. But I’m sure it would make for a good study for someone over at Fangraphs or BTBS who has the know-how to get such information and work with it.
April 10th, 2010 at 9:20 pmSpike, how is the same not true if his last year is Arb 3?
April 10th, 2010 at 9:23 pmIf Huff botches one, the Giants will bad defense for the cycle.
April 10th, 2010 at 9:27 pm14,
The sample we want is guys that a) have more than five but less than six years of service time and b) were arbitration eligible for the fourth time during that season. Between guys that get non tendered before they reach free agency, guys that sign extensions, and guys that get 1 year deals during their first year of free agency (you want to remove this group from the sample), it’s going to take a lot of years of data to get anything close to as big a sample as we’d like.
I can get the salary data, just need a complete list of every player that’s ever qualified for Super 2 status from 1974-2006. I’ll email the BtB list and see if anyone has anything.
April 10th, 2010 at 9:28 pmAt least the pitcher got cleared.
April 10th, 2010 at 9:30 pmIf the Braves get rained out tomorrow, do they skip KK?
April 10th, 2010 at 9:31 pmGlaus sucks.
April 10th, 2010 at 9:37 pmNot as much as Chip.
April 10th, 2010 at 9:38 pmIt’s close.
April 10th, 2010 at 9:39 pmneed a DP…either way Glaus shouldve caught that liner
April 10th, 2010 at 9:39 pmBalkin Bob must have dinner reservations again tonight.
April 10th, 2010 at 9:40 pmdoes Lowe have only one pitch now? seems like everything he’s throwing is 87-89 on the outside corner and moving back to the middle
April 10th, 2010 at 9:40 pmLowe got so bailed out on those k’s by the ump
April 10th, 2010 at 9:42 pmDavidson has a large strike zone tonight. McLouth just got punched out on an inside pitch.
I actually like the large strike zone, as long as it’s consistent.
April 10th, 2010 at 9:43 pmP.W. @ 23,
Understandably so.
To make a guide on all the arbitration-eligible players in the world… that was my dream! But I can’t do it!
(+2000 internet dollars to whoever can guess the reference without the aid of Google.)
April 10th, 2010 at 9:44 pmJCM
April 10th, 2010 at 9:45 pmit does still have value. That doesn’t alter the fact that Arb 4 is worth something.
Ok, we can’t get shut out by Todd Wellemeyer.
April 10th, 2010 at 9:47 pmAnd I don’t think avg value would tell you much. You need comparable values.
April 10th, 2010 at 9:48 pmIS anyone else listening to these SF announcers? These guys are complete blowhards. They are complaining about the umps like they are getting shafted, apparently they didn’t watch the game yesterday.
April 10th, 2010 at 9:48 pmLowe is going to a lot of deep counts.
April 10th, 2010 at 9:50 pmLoved that at-bat by Heyward. Jonathan Sanchez called him a “free swinger” after that game yesterday. Hopefully he’s made that adjustment– he’s too smart to be waving at pitches in the dirt like he was doing.
April 10th, 2010 at 9:58 pmIt’s not humanly possible to look worse than Diaz at the plate when he’s swinging out of his shoes like a clod
April 10th, 2010 at 10:01 pmReally? Again?
April 10th, 2010 at 10:01 pmHeywards AB – very encouraging. Diaz then resembled an old lady trying to swat a bee with a broom.
April 10th, 2010 at 10:01 pmThis sucks.
April 10th, 2010 at 10:03 pmYeah, Sanchez, you keep saying that. This is all part of the master plan. (I hope.)
April 10th, 2010 at 10:03 pmInning ruined by Diaz
April 10th, 2010 at 10:03 pm@46
You won’t see that written too often this year.
April 10th, 2010 at 10:05 pmSwings like that are why Diaz is riding the pine, you simply can not swing at the pitches he does and be a consistent reliable offensive player
April 10th, 2010 at 10:05 pmSo I’m not the only one who watches the Braves alone on a Saturday night? This is encouraging.
April 10th, 2010 at 10:05 pmInteresting use of the word “encouraging” there, Kyle, both from the Braves’ play standpoint and our social life standpoint.
April 10th, 2010 at 10:06 pmI agree, except he is a consistent reliable offensive player. Other than that, you’re spot on.
I’ve been so busy and my cable so sucks that this is the first game I’m watching this year. I ended my night early so I can watch Derek freaking Lowe. Fortunately I get tomorrow’s game too, so I’ll at least see a good pitcher.
April 10th, 2010 at 10:08 pmI’m totally not alone, I’ve got my computer science notes to keep me company here…
April 10th, 2010 at 10:09 pmI hate Lowe.
April 10th, 2010 at 10:13 pmI’ve got my monthly budget to keep me company.
Derek Lowe. I would so much rather have him than Javier Vazquez. I’ll never get over that.
April 10th, 2010 at 10:13 pmWhen Lowe pitches behind it’s excruciating to watch.
Shouldn’t the guy on third have broke for home?
April 10th, 2010 at 10:13 pmLowe can’t walk guys and expect success. He’s lucky to have only given up 1 run.
April 10th, 2010 at 10:15 pmLowe’s high wire act would have ended long ago against a less inept offensive team than the Giants. Lowe doesn’t have squat and is benefitting from a bad offense and a generous umpire.
April 10th, 2010 at 10:15 pmImagine how bad this would be if McCann hadn’t thrown out two runners on the basepaths.
April 10th, 2010 at 10:16 pmDerek Lowe: He makes more money than anyone else in a Braves uniform.
April 10th, 2010 at 10:16 pmLowe has thrown 74 pitches through four innings. Despite the generous strike zone he has the same number of walks as strikeouts (four, though one was intentional) and nearly as many balls (35) as strikes (39).
April 10th, 2010 at 10:17 pmI have it on mute. Did Chip say “belted”?
April 10th, 2010 at 10:18 pmPrado for MVP.
Mac, on the Glaus AB: “Belted, left field.”
It was caught in left center, by the center fielder.
April 10th, 2010 at 10:19 pmProbably.
April 10th, 2010 at 10:21 pmSaid it that time. Shut up, Chip.
April 10th, 2010 at 10:22 pmGlaus got under it.
April 10th, 2010 at 10:22 pmHah, “belted” to the warning track.
April 10th, 2010 at 10:22 pmwell, at least he got it out of the infield
April 10th, 2010 at 10:22 pmA better swing for Troy, with the same depressing result.
April 10th, 2010 at 10:22 pmDang…Mclouth and Glaus tattooed those balls. I guess you can’t hit one outta that place in center unless you’re roided up.
April 10th, 2010 at 10:24 pmWe’re getting shut out by Todd F. Wellemeyer.
April 10th, 2010 at 10:24 pmThe only reliable thing your getting with Diaz is him always giving 110 percent and swinging with his eyes closed
April 10th, 2010 at 10:24 pmLowe has walked 7 and stuck out 6 in 10 innings so far on the year.
April 10th, 2010 at 10:25 pmTo be fair, Glaus’ ball probably would have been a homer in any other park (but Petco) in the league.
April 10th, 2010 at 10:26 pmShut up about Lowe winning 15 games Chip and Joe.
April 10th, 2010 at 10:26 pmJoe just referred to Derek’s “supposedly bad year” while referring to his W/L record.
Needless to say, when your offense scores 16 runs, you know how to WIN.
I think he was listed toward the top, probably 1 or 2, in 2009 run support in the James Handbook. It was over 6 runs per game of run support. That’s how you get 15 wins with a 4.67 ERA.
April 10th, 2010 at 10:28 pmHe was third, 6.2 runs a game.
April 10th, 2010 at 10:29 pmDoes anyone else notice Renteria peaking out of the corner of his eye back at the catcher? That deserves a beaning.
April 10th, 2010 at 10:29 pmSeriously, is Chip blind in one eye or something? The fans realized that was an out before he did.
April 10th, 2010 at 10:30 pmGiants announcer : “And Renteria puts a charge into this ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!! and… it’s caught in center.” Not even close to the warning track.
Apparently these guys have no idea how to judge the flight of a ball of a guys bat.
April 10th, 2010 at 10:31 pmHeyward!
April 10th, 2010 at 10:33 pmHEYWARD!
April 10th, 2010 at 10:34 pmWatching Lowe pitch and hearing Chip announce is a difficult combination to endure. I think i’ll go to bed before I watch Catfish Wellmeyer shut us out.
April 10th, 2010 at 10:34 pmChip couldn’t tell that one was going out.
April 10th, 2010 at 10:34 pmNow, that one wasn’t belted, apparently.
April 10th, 2010 at 10:34 pmJASON!!
April 10th, 2010 at 10:34 pmI was about to say something snarky about Yunel’s hair, but instead, I’ll just enjoy Heyward’s homer. Shouldn’t Joe be going nuts about it?
April 10th, 2010 at 10:34 pmJ-HEY!
April 10th, 2010 at 10:35 pmNone of the announcers can tell… it’s not just Chip
April 10th, 2010 at 10:35 pmAs bad as Chip may be, I’d take 1000 games announced by Chip than one game announced by Joe Morgan. Joe is by far the worst baseball announcer in the modern era.
April 10th, 2010 at 10:36 pmI guess we have to endure one more inning of Lowe, assuming he makes it through.
April 10th, 2010 at 10:37 pmOkay, remind me why it would be wrong to get a high-powered rifle and take out Lowe next time he spazzes out and won’t throw a strike.
April 10th, 2010 at 10:42 pmBecause leaving Lowe’s bleeding, twitching form on the mound will be no more fun for the fans than his pitching?
April 10th, 2010 at 10:43 pmBut they’d only have to see that once.
April 10th, 2010 at 10:43 pmThis is disgusting.
April 10th, 2010 at 10:46 pm9 walks in 11 innings. Awful.
April 10th, 2010 at 10:46 pmDid that ealk make any sense to anyone?
April 10th, 2010 at 10:46 pmEalk the lefty to pitch to the righty, yeah. Though I’d have relieved the bastard by now.
April 10th, 2010 at 10:48 pm10 walks.
April 10th, 2010 at 10:48 pmplease go get him
April 10th, 2010 at 10:49 pmBobby, why are you doing this to us?
April 10th, 2010 at 10:49 pm111 pitches, too.
Thank you, Yunel.
April 10th, 2010 at 10:49 pmAs bad as Chip may be, I’d take 1000 games announced by Chip than one game announced by Joe Morgan. Joe is by far the worst baseball announcer in the modern era.
Nope. I’d take Morgan over Chip Caray.
April 10th, 2010 at 10:50 pmDon’t slide in to first, you idiot.
April 10th, 2010 at 10:50 pmAnd that, ladies and gentlemen, is a “quality start.”
April 10th, 2010 at 10:50 pmEli Whiteside has gotta be the only guy who wants to forget this game more than Lowe. As for Lowe’s 112 pitches of frustration, it was a quality start that we will never speak of again.
April 10th, 2010 at 10:50 pm104 — It’s why he makes the big bucks.
April 10th, 2010 at 10:51 pmThe defense bails Lowe out, and Joe says that he “did his best pitching” in the inning.
April 10th, 2010 at 10:52 pmhahaha Joe Morgan??? we are talking about “Dr.” Joe Morgan right? This is the same guy that thought Pesky’s pole was 280 feet away. Joe Morgan is the least intelligent announcer going
April 10th, 2010 at 10:53 pmI’m glad Damian Moss doesn’t pitch for the Braves anymore. Well, only metaphorically.
April 10th, 2010 at 10:55 pmYea but Moss had some sweet mutton chops
April 10th, 2010 at 10:58 pmWellemeyer is working slower than Steve Trachsel.
April 10th, 2010 at 10:58 pmTake the out!
Stupid Giants.
April 10th, 2010 at 10:58 pmBunting with Prado will just take the bat out of McCann’s hands.
April 10th, 2010 at 10:59 pm“Hey, let’s bunt with the guy hitting .632, knowing they’ll just walk McCann to pitch to Captain Out!”
April 10th, 2010 at 10:59 pmNot sure about the Prado bunt, though I get the thinking. Problem is, they walk McCann so Glaus can hit into another double play. Sigh.
April 10th, 2010 at 10:59 pmPrado bunting with 2 on and 0 out? this team is the epitome of desperate
April 10th, 2010 at 11:00 pmJoe Morgan is the least intelligent announcer going
Turn on the volume on the Braves game.
April 10th, 2010 at 11:00 pmWow, genius observation by Joe. Martin Prado is a “baseball player.”
April 10th, 2010 at 11:00 pmAny chance that this ealk won’t work for the Giants?
April 10th, 2010 at 11:00 pmI’ll take it!
April 10th, 2010 at 11:01 pmGood job by Glaus of driving in that run without an AB
April 10th, 2010 at 11:01 pmGlaus pulls a Homer, but I’ll take the run anyway.
April 10th, 2010 at 11:03 pmSome wild pitching tonight.
April 10th, 2010 at 11:03 pmWow, genius observation by Joe. Martin Prado is a “baseball player.”
Yeah, what does that even mean? Prado and Omar Infante are “ball players” and apparently Chipper Jones and Brian McCann are not, according to Joe Simpson.
Why are the, apparently, non-ball players seemingly a better class of players?
April 10th, 2010 at 11:03 pm“He might have broken his bat.”
Uh…
April 10th, 2010 at 11:04 pmWhat game is Chip Caray watching?
April 10th, 2010 at 11:04 pmDid Chip Caray say “he might have broken his bat”?
April 10th, 2010 at 11:04 pmApparently, being a ball player is impossible once you reach a certain talent level.
April 10th, 2010 at 11:05 pmmlbtv crapped out. Did Glaus take one for the team?
April 10th, 2010 at 11:05 pm@129 – Caught the jersey.
April 10th, 2010 at 11:06 pmWell, league, there was your adjustment period. Did you enjoy it?
April 10th, 2010 at 11:11 pmThat’s a free swinger right there.
April 10th, 2010 at 11:12 pmChip gets a C- and Joe Morgan get’s an F in the announcing category
April 10th, 2010 at 11:12 pmIs Lowe eligible for the win now?
April 10th, 2010 at 11:13 pmNice comeback game for Heyward.
Let’s hold onto this one, fellas…
April 10th, 2010 at 11:13 pmI love it. This stream is pitch-modulating Chip and Joe’s voices. They occasionally sound 50% tougher.
April 10th, 2010 at 11:15 pm134 — Yes.
April 10th, 2010 at 11:15 pmYes, Kyle, he is. Any other questions about the uselessness of the Win stat?
April 10th, 2010 at 11:16 pmLeast surprising thing I’ve heard all night– “And here’s Pete Moylan, and this is already his fourth appearance.” He might pitch in 120 games this year.
April 10th, 2010 at 11:16 pm@ 138 – Since he only pitched in the bottom of the inning I wasn’t sure.
As Eastwood said, “Deserves got nothing to do with it.”
April 10th, 2010 at 11:17 pmmlbtv refuses to work now. It’s only a few games into the season and it’s already really getting on my nerves. Is this pretty normal or am I just lucky?
April 10th, 2010 at 11:20 pmHe was the pitcher when the Braves broke the tie. He was pinch-hit for in the inning, but Moylan had not come in yet.
April 10th, 2010 at 11:20 pm@141
April 10th, 2010 at 11:22 pmThe MLB extra innings package is free right now, so the game is on if that helps
141 — one of these days… (I don’t have cable). Thanks, though.
April 10th, 2010 at 11:23 pm@141 – The first week of the season is usually pretty glitchy.
April 10th, 2010 at 11:23 pmI guess the umpire is trying to make up for yesterday on that one.
April 10th, 2010 at 11:25 pmIs Eli Whiteside the worst player in baseball? Seriously, he’s been a disaster all night. Who can’t find a backup catcher who can at least play defense?
April 10th, 2010 at 11:26 pmWell, the Braves usually couldn’t between the Eddie Perez and Dave Ross eras. Remember Todd Pratt? (Sorry for reminding you.)
April 10th, 2010 at 11:27 pmMcLouth always has a weird expression on his face.
April 10th, 2010 at 11:27 pmCorky the hamster?
April 10th, 2010 at 11:28 pmYeah, him too.
April 10th, 2010 at 11:29 pmPrado went 2-4 and will see his BA drop after tonight’s game.
April 10th, 2010 at 11:30 pmI honestly think he’s worse defensively than those guys.
April 10th, 2010 at 11:31 pmJust a bit outside.
April 10th, 2010 at 11:31 pmI think every Giant in the infield has committed an error or a Prado tonight.
April 10th, 2010 at 11:32 pmThe Giants might have a worse defense than us.
April 10th, 2010 at 11:33 pmOur infield defense has been pretty awesome tonight, actually… I can’t imagine what Lincecum and Cain would do with a good defense behind them.
April 10th, 2010 at 11:34 pmYeah, I suppose that’s the only way Lowe gave up 1 run.
April 10th, 2010 at 11:36 pmI really wish McCann would put his right arm behind his back.
April 10th, 2010 at 11:39 pmis there any site that keeps up with each pitch from Lowe in the game. Ive watched most of this game. I can only remember two pitches that he threw less than 86mph and zero over 89. Seems like there is nothing offspeed. A starter cant survive with no command and everything being the same speed. Its like all he throws is a two seam fastball that sometimes sinks
April 10th, 2010 at 11:42 pm159 — I’m with you.
April 10th, 2010 at 11:43 pm160: Your estimation of Lowe’s pitches seems right to me too, but he was surprisingly effective (minus the walks, of course)– when he threw the ball over the plate, he got swings and misses and ground balls right at infielders. Weird.
April 10th, 2010 at 11:43 pmWhat are the odds that Wagner pitches the 9th, regardless of whether the Braves score in the top half? 1-2? 2-5?
April 10th, 2010 at 11:45 pmPretty low since they just showed him hanging out on the bench.
April 10th, 2010 at 11:45 pmWould be a good time to use Chavez methinks.
April 10th, 2010 at 11:46 pm165- Good call. Here’s hopin’.
April 10th, 2010 at 11:49 pmChip says Wagner is up, but that doesn’t necessarily mean anything.
April 10th, 2010 at 11:51 pmwhee!
April 10th, 2010 at 11:54 pmEric Hinske makes his case to play ahead of Glaus.
April 10th, 2010 at 11:54 pmDid Chip just say “comfortly?”
Um, Jo-Jo didn’t pitch yesterday, genius.
April 10th, 2010 at 11:55 pmChip Caray compared Eric Hinske to Babe Ruth and Matt Stairs in the same sentence.
April 10th, 2010 at 11:56 pmI kinda hope the game against Lincecum gets rained out.
April 10th, 2010 at 11:56 pmdefensive and offensively – this giants team is far from impressive
April 10th, 2010 at 11:59 pmGood God, the incompetence at SportsSouth goes all the way to the bottom.
April 11th, 2010 at 12:00 amYou’re right Mac, Whiteside is really bad.
April 11th, 2010 at 12:01 amMan, the Giants look like the Bad News Bears tonight. Whiteside’s terrible, but he’s not getting any help from these pitchers. These guys are slinging the ball all over the place.
April 11th, 2010 at 12:01 amBut, but, but…I WANTED to hear it in McCann’s own words.
April 11th, 2010 at 12:03 amWith Uribe, Whiteside, and the Giants’ bench up next, this is a perfect example of Reitsma room.
April 11th, 2010 at 12:04 amHow can you blame Whiteside? some of these pitches are hitting short of the plate. If he sets up inside they are throwing it three feet outside. I kinda feel bad for this kid, I cant recall having to watch a catcher work so hard
April 11th, 2010 at 12:05 am165, your wish is granted.
April 11th, 2010 at 12:05 am@160
http://www.brooksbaseball.net
The home of pitchFX. Great site. Keeps a live log of all pitches thrown by every pitcher in every game, with a wide variety of data sets. You can pull data from this site to graph the flight paths of any pitch as well.
According to them, Lowe threw 5 sliders that averaged 80.22 mph, and 2 change-ups that averaged 82.9 mph. Though I would be of the opinion that the two “change-ups” were actually hanging sliders, as it is a given that their computer system will categorize bad pitches wrongly on occassion.
April 11th, 2010 at 12:06 amYou know how some pitchers, their radar gun reading is deceptive because they make it hard to see the ball? I think Chavez is the opposite. He sits at the top of his motion and lets everyone see what’s coming.
April 11th, 2010 at 12:06 amC’mon Chavez. Give Wagner the day off.
April 11th, 2010 at 12:07 amMaybe Chavez will yet get it done….
April 11th, 2010 at 12:11 amThe worst thing about this is that it will reinforce Bobby overworking his best relievers.
April 11th, 2010 at 12:12 amseriously? Why is Wagner warming up?
April 11th, 2010 at 12:13 amBraves win!
April 11th, 2010 at 12:13 amalright. Braves win. Well done.
April 11th, 2010 at 12:14 amdouglass, thanks
so out of Lowe’s 112 pitches, he threw 7 total pitches less than 86mph and 105 pitches between the range of 86-89mph
April 11th, 2010 at 12:14 amChip Caray: “And a couple of hits from Jason Hey-lerd…”
April 11th, 2010 at 12:14 amI’ve had five-run wins that I’ve enjoyed more, but I’ll take it.
April 11th, 2010 at 12:14 amNow let’s pray for rain to avoid Lincecum.
April 11th, 2010 at 12:16 amMaybe someone’s already posted about this, but I’m a little tipsy so bear with me…
…what’d you guys think about Chip’s comparison of Hinske to Babe Ruth?
April 11th, 2010 at 12:20 amwhat’d you guys think about Chip’s comparison of Hinske to Babe Ruth?
See: #171 in this thread.
“Line drive base hit…caught!”
April 11th, 2010 at 12:21 amHA, glad I missed that comparison
April 11th, 2010 at 12:21 amRecapped.
April 11th, 2010 at 12:24 am