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30 Sep

Brad Komminsk vs. Dave Gallagher. Also, game thread, Marlins at Braves.

Brad Komminsk Statistics and History – Baseball-Reference.com

Seasons with Braves: 1983-1987
Notable Stats: .217 BA, .319 SLG
Notable Achievements: The greatest failed prospect of all time.

Versus

Dave Gallagher Statistics and History – Baseball-Reference.com

Seasons with Braves: 1994
Notable Stats: .224 BA, .296 SLG
Notable Achievements: Used to platoon with Ryan Klesko despite there being no evidence that Klesko needed to be platooned.

101 Responses to “Brad Komminsk vs. Dave Gallagher. Also, game thread, Marlins at Braves.”

  1. 1
    Stu Says:

    An interesting fact (to no one but me): In the past 10 games between the two teams, Ole Miss has scored 253 total points, and Vanderbilt has scored 248 total points, for an average point differential of 0.5 over the past decade.

  2. 2
    Stu Says:

    I mean absolutely no disrespect to P. W. Hjort, who is deserving of recognition for a great and informative site, but how in the world is Capitol Avenue Club linked at Neyer’s blog while this place is not?

  3. 3
    Jorgbacca Says:

    You enjoy my misery to much Stu. I just have to keep reminding myself. “But even State beat them.”

  4. 4
    Jorgbacca Says:

    You enjoy my misery to much Stu. I just have to keep reminding myself, “But even State beat them.”

  5. 5
    Jorgbacca Says:

    I don’t know how I posted that twice. I guess its because my hands are shaky due to the fear of losing to Vandy for the third straight year.

  6. 6
    Stu Says:

    As someone on the VU message board I frequent said earlier, in response to my recitation of this fact:

    And the good news is we have held them to only 17 points a game the last three years.
    The bad news is that’s 13 points more than they will likely need to win the game

  7. 7
    ububba Says:

    Mark Richt’s Dawgs vs LSU: 3-2

    1-0 in Athens
    1-1 in Baton Rouge
    1-1 in Atlanta

    Let’s stay ahead of the curve, fellas, and hang onto the ball for one day.

  8. 8
    P. W. Hjort Says:

    Joe Posnanski on Chipper and the Braves.

  9. 9
    Dusty Says:

    Stu @2:

    Well, while this is easily my first and only Braves site for the fan interaction and Mac’s writeups are wonderful, PWHjort offers some great analysis and a great deal of statistical info. A link referencing our 64 worsy Braves should be in order, though.

    Just want to be clear, I love both and I spend most of my time here, but the posts at Capital Avenue Club do seem more “link-worthy.”

  10. 10
    Stu Says:

    I know CAC’s posts are link-worthy; I just dispute the notion that Mac’s contributions aren’t. Yeah, there are a lot of recaps, but even those—most of them, anyway—display Mac’s insight and analytical chops.

    I’m sure it doesn’t bother Mac at all, and I know Neyer knows and likes Mac, anyway, but it bothers me.

  11. 11
    Ron E. Says:

    #8 yeah good stuff. I hope Chipper rebounds next year and has a few more good years left.

  12. 12
    joelk Says:

    I never expected much from Gallagher when he came over but Komminsk was supposed to be the second coming of our savior. I voted for Komminsk because of the disappointment!

  13. 13
    joelk Says:

    @8 That’s a really nice article, thanks for sharing the link.

  14. 14
    Dusty Says:

    Stu,

    I think we agree, I was just saying you’ll probably never see Neyer link to a recap no matter how well they are written (and Mac’s are by far the best on the web).

    And everyone should check out CAC if you haven’t, it’s linked on the right.

  15. 15
    JB Says:

    http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/K/brad-komminsk.shtml

    How could Komminsk be so good in the minors but suck in the majors. Though he didn’t ever really seem the same after the 82 season. Did he get hurt?

  16. 16
    ububba Says:

    I can’t quit voting for Komminsk.

    Boog Sciambi on WFAN in NYC this morning:
    http://tinyurl.com/yecxhd7

  17. 17
    joelk Says:

    I didn’t realize he was still playing in the minors in 97! He had an 18 year career in baseball while never being more than a good AAA player, amazing!

  18. 18
    Coach (2010- Mediocrity rules) Says:

    I read Posnanski’s article which is excellent.

    Chipper Jones rank among the top five switch hitters in ML history. In no particular order:

    Mickey Mantle, Eddie Murray, Frankie Frisch, Chipper Jones and Pete Rose. Of course, there is some dude playing in Houston right now who is also in the top ten (Lance Berkman).

    Komminsk was a massive bust, arguably the biggest tank job of them all. But he is working his way back to the majors as a manager in the minors.

    Hey MAC , I owe you an apology. Last week when that post of mine disappeared for a few hours I was pissed and mistakenly took it out on you. I was wrong to do so and I’m very sorry. Hope you don’t hold it against me as I really appreciate your blog :)

  19. 19
    td Says:

    Komminsk was a bust of Dolly Parton proportions.

  20. 20
    Mac Thomason Says:

    That’s okay, Coach.

  21. 21
    Stu Says:

    Props for the apology, Coach.

  22. 22
    Jeff K Says:

    The Posnanski article is great — thanks for the link. This nugget captures for me exactly my take on Chipper, although I could have never found these words on my own:

    “He is like a superstar from a different age, Musial in a minor key.”

  23. 23
    ryan c Says:

    from the last thread, regarding “power bat” and the thought of acquiring holliday:

    “Holliday is primed to be way overpaid in two years. If the market for him is reasonable, take a shot. But if he’s in the 5/60 range pass and call Bobby Abreu.”

    do you guys realize we have our own matt holliday in left field already? matt diaz is one hell of a ballplayer and has put up eerily similar stats to holliday this season.

    look at this. if matt diaz would have kept the same production that he has put up this year in the same amount of bats as holliday, here’s how the 2 would compare:

    matty d: 21 hr 94 rbi .315 .392 .884 ops 19sb
    holliday: 24 hr 105 rbi .313 .391 .910 ops 14sb

    when playing strictly left field, diaz is a better defender. there’s no need to spend 12 mil per year on holliday. we have him already and will only be a fourth of the cost.

  24. 24
    Randy Says:

    Komminsk, This guy just never ever looked good. I mean, not even one game did he look good. I just hated that chop-down swing of his. Komminsk just might go all the way in this poll.

  25. 25
    JL Says:

    Sorry. Gallagher took at bats away from Klesko. Never loathed a player more than him. Cox’s fault; but it hurt Klesko in the long run.

  26. 26
    spike (back in the ATL) Says:

    The main thing about Komminsk is that ATL got Dion James for him, who was actually quite serviceable as a brave.

  27. 27
    Ron E. Says:

    Win the next 5. At worst you’ve won 91 games which is insane considering where the team was at the end of June. And just maybe it’ll be enough to force a playoff on Monday.

  28. 28
    ububba Says:

    Going from 90 losses to 90 wins, who takes the blame for that? Heads must roll.

  29. 29
    Mike N. Says:

    If the difficulty of finding 3 tickets to tomorrow night’s game is any indication, it should be pretty full. Only seats available for 3 people are the dugout, terrace, or Hank Aaron seats, which are all at least 36 dollars, a bit too much for me and my friends. As far as I know, can’t get 3 tickets together anywhere else.

  30. 30
    Sam Hutcheson Says:

    @28

    But what you fail to understand is that if the manager wasn’t senile and suffering from Alzeihmer’s this team could have won 120 games! All they needed was some guy from the internet who could Google up VORP rankings on demand!

  31. 31
    ryan c Says:

    well, i guess we gave up:

    gorecki
    conrad
    prado
    norton
    infante
    ross
    laroche
    church

  32. 32
    desert Says:

    31,

    What? ESPN isn’t showing that.

  33. 33
    Mike N. Says:

    I must be a complete idiot, because I fell for that for a second.

  34. 34
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Ric Flair’s Limo, Fancy Suits Were Key To Gamecocks Upset – Pro Wrestling – Deadspin

  35. 35
    sdp Says:

    McLouth CF
    Prado 2B
    Chipper 3B
    McCann C
    Anderson LF
    Escobar SS
    LaRoche 1B
    Diaz RF
    Vazquez P

  36. 36
    Marc Says:

    Maybe the Webels should have called Hulk Hogan to combat the Nature Boy.

  37. 37
    RobBroad4th Says:

    Generous strike zone tonight.

  38. 38
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    Oh, Chipper…

  39. 39
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    Crap.

  40. 40
    RobBroad4th Says:

    We look tired and awful.

  41. 41
    sdp Says:

    Prepare for 2010.

  42. 42
    ububba Says:

    Ross Gload again. This team is loaded with annoying guys.

    I’ll give this to the Marlins—they’ve played end-of-the-year spoiler 3 consecutive seasons. Just ask the Mets.

  43. 43
    Adam M Says:

    Every Brave has struck out.

  44. 44
    Joshua Says:

    More than that – it is 9 in a row. Has to be record, doesn’t it?

  45. 45
    kc Says:

    We have no answer for Ryan Howard, we have no answer for Dan Uggla, and we have no answer for…Ross Gload?!?!?!

  46. 46
    JC Says:

    NPHE

  47. 47
    sdp Says:

    TITS&ASS!

  48. 48
    Our New Insect Overlords Says:

    In five days, we won’t have Greg Norton to kick around anymore.

  49. 49
    braves14 Says:

    34 — I saw that last Thursday, it’s still hilarious

  50. 50
    marc schneider Says:

    Well, as well as the Braves have played, they did benefit from playing the Nats and Mets a lot. They didn’t do so well against the Phillies (later in the year) and now the Marlins, whom they have struggled with all year.

  51. 51
    JC Says:

    Since the Braves added a third catcher, Dave Ross hasn’t been used as a pinch hitter.

  52. 52
    Coach (2010- Mediocrity rules) Says:

    28, glass half full kind of guy are you?

    Word to the wise, the glass should be full and running over.

  53. 53
    kc Says:

    For some of you may have forgotten how great a player Chipper has been…

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/joe_posnanski/09/30/atlanta.braves/

  54. 54
    Lunatic96 Says:

    It’s nice to see that Medlen is out of the doghouse. At least until Bobby uses him 4 days in a row with predictable results.

  55. 55
    Coz Says:

    The truth of it is that we were not supposed to really compete this year. No one thought we had a WS winner on our hands at season’s start, and most of us just hoped we’d see some growth from the past few years of “malaise”, some sense of a real rebuilt team – and we have. The realistic goal at this point of the season has to be those 90 wins – who thought we had a shot at that even a month ago? (Though I agree with ububba that 91 would get us that tie and would be sweet.) I remain positive at least at the thought that these guys could get it done, but striking out 16 times in a must win game doesn’t give me much hope that this offense could go very far in a postseason anyway. I’d love to see what this pitching staff could do in October, as great as it has been this year, but at this point any “hope” is for gravy, really. It’s been a good year!

  56. 56
    Johnny Says:

    PWHjort thanks for the link to the Posnanski article. Great stuff about Chipper but also kudos to the Braves way. Much like the great 49er teams in football the Braves weren’t afraid to turn the team over. Teams built around a core of great players usually complemented with good ones. Not all the acquisitions or trades worked out but the plan worked for 14 years.

    I lived in Findlay just north of Lima OH for 5 years. Komminsk was still a legend there. But I remember watching him play. His bat was slow and Randy you are right but to me the swing looked like it had an extreme upper cut to it. I remember Joe Morgan commenting on the holes in Komminsk’s swing when doing color commentary on a game. Joe Torre caught hell for ‘ruining’ Brad Komminsk.

  57. 57
    RobBroad4th Says:

    Let’s play a game called “What Does Your Braves Journal Handle Mean?” Who wants to start?

  58. 58
    Johnny Says:

    My first name is Johnny.

  59. 59
    Shelby Says:

    Here’s what I think: 1)sign a power RF bat. 2)call up Heyward and Freeman. If we do those things, we have a playoff team in 2010.
    LF Heyward
    CF McClouth
    RF Power Bat
    1B Freeman/The Roach
    2B Prado/Pardo
    SS Escobar
    3B Chipper/Infante
    C McCann/Ross
    PH Diaz

    SP’s: Hanson, Hudson (maybe), Vazquez, Jair, and Lowe.
    Long Relief: Kamikaze or Merlin (Medlen) if we don’t sign huddy.
    Relief: Gonzo, Soriano, Moylan, etc. This is a playoff team.
    The problem with this year is we didn’t get the right players on the field until after the all star break. we have it now.

    This is my first post ever, but have been a big fan of this site for a long time now. Mac: you rock! But you have never pointed out two important things. 1)Ubaldo Jiminez is actually Obama twenty years ago. 2)If they ever decided to make a documentary about Vicente Padilla, they would paint Chris Kattan and tell him to eat Ryan Howard (not only to gain the wait, but also so that Howard won’t do any more of those subway commercials.)

  60. 60
    desert Says:

    Keep Hope Alive!!!

  61. 61
    Weldon Says:

    Weldon is my first name. It’s also my mother’s maiden name, but I did not graduate from a private school.

  62. 62
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    The name in parentheses is my original handle on here, a reference to Alex R., who was on here before me. My actual name is actually Alex Remington.

    Thanks, Wesley.

  63. 63
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Hey, I got hung with my mother’s maiden name too.

  64. 64
    sdp Says:

    sdp are my initials

  65. 65
    Jeremy Says:

    /bites nails

  66. 66
    stupup74 Says:

    Be Patient Prado

  67. 67
    Jeremy Says:

    Jeremy is my first name, though I go by something else.

  68. 68
    desert Says:

    I was born in the Indian desert (Punjab) and lived in the (well, I’m actually not sure what it is called) desert in Mesquite, NV for my high school years. Incidentally, I really don’t like the desert.

  69. 69
    Coz Says:

    Coz is short for Cosby, as in the great Bill Cosby and also an especially great N64 player back in the day. It’s a normal handle of mine.

    Go Braves! (See…I can’t help it.)

  70. 70
    Anon21 Says:

    This is slow torture…just don’t make an out, Martin. They practically handed us this game on a platter, now make them pay for it!

  71. 71
    Weldon Says:

    Well, did you graduate from a private school?

    Are the Braves playing tonight?

  72. 72
    desert Says:

    nevermind….

  73. 73
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    Goddammit. What a way for the season to end…

  74. 74
    Jeremy Says:

    Fuck me.

  75. 75
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Parochial school, I’m afraid.

  76. 76
    Frank Says:

    holy effin baserunning blunders batman!

  77. 77
    Mac Thomason Says:

    What happened?

  78. 78
    Weldon Says:

    Hahaha, oh man. Between this and the Rockies game last night, man.

  79. 79
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    Incidentally, I apologize for blaspheming. No disrespect intended. I’m just mad as hell.

  80. 80
    ryan c Says:

    did we just get snitker’d again? he was way down the line…

  81. 81
    desert Says:

    Matty D picked off third.

  82. 82
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    What happened is there was a wild pitch that got away from Paulino but not too far away — Matt Diaz came about halfway down the third base line but then thought better of it, and Paulino found the ball in time to throw Matt out at third.

    It may have been the first time a player actually Snitkered himself.

  83. 83
    sdp Says:

    WOW

  84. 84
    sdp Says:

    Wow.

  85. 85
    Coz Says:

    That was brutal. Diaz is the goat, which is especially hard to take. :<

  86. 86
    Coach (2010- Mediocrity rules) Says:

    Diaz got caught in no man’s land. The baseball Gods hate us.

  87. 87
    stupup74 Says:

    Diaz does some stupid crap sometimes.

  88. 88
    Jeremy Says:

    desert,
    I’ve been to Mesquite quite often. Were your parents blackjack dealers or something?

  89. 89
    Frank Says:

    Is the spam filter acting up tonight? I had a comment that didn’t post.

  90. 90
    ububba Says:

    That sucked about as bad as it can suck.

  91. 91
    JC Says:

    Prado threw up the stop sign, and I think that’s what caused Matt to hesitate. Tough split-second decision.

  92. 92
    Steffen Says:

    Wow, what Miserable Braves Loss Type is THIS ****? One thing you can’t accuse this team of is lack of creativity.

  93. 93
    Weldon Says:

    It wasn’t Snitker, I don’t think. Prado seemed to be calling him home, didn’t he?

    You would think there was nothing that could make this loss worse, but then they cued up the damn “Looooad up the baysez” promo. Shit.

    Mac, well, it’s not a bad thing. It’s just a percentages thing.

  94. 94
    Nathan Says:

    Was Diaz dead at home if he had just gone for it?

  95. 95
    Coach (2010- Mediocrity rules) Says:

    I’m gonna go kill the fat lady now, she’s singing way too loud for my taste.

  96. 96
    stupup74 Says:

    The braves spazz out worse than my cat when there is anything to play for.

    They were rocking along until they got within shouting distance then they started playing tight. The second the ‘believe’ signs came out they Braves spinkters got tight enough to turn coal into diamonds. They were squeezing the saw dust out of the bats.

    The braves have to do something before next year. Matt Diaz/Adam LaRoche are having career years, but neither are long term answers. The bullpen has to be rebuilt, only having 3 or 4 guys who throw strikes consistently is not enough.

    Gonna be tough to get better with 30mil sunk into Chipper and Lowe for the next 3 years.

  97. 97
    ububba Says:

    Yeah, he would’ve been safe if he’d kept going.

  98. 98
    desert Says:

    Jeremy,

    No, my mother is completely against gambling. She work at Mesquite Medical, where she’s a pediatrician.

  99. 99
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Recapped.

  100. 100
    ryan c Says:

    i’m pretty sure he would have made it.

  101. 101
    Coz Says:

    I think the MBLT index needs updating after this one.

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