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05 Jul

Out at home game thread: July 5, Braves at Nats

Where is the runner?“Hi, I’m Braves third base coach Brian Snitker, and I have the depth perception of a one-eyed rhinoceros.”

132 Responses to “Out at home game thread: July 5, Braves at Nats”

  1. 1
    PWHjort Says:

    Article on Captain Underpants.

  2. 2
    John Gaines Says:

    Francoeur sucks.

  3. 3
    braves14 Says:

    Lineup…no Jeffy

    1. Nate McLouth CF
    2. Martin Prado 2B
    3. Chipper Jones 3B
    4. Brian McCann C
    5. Yunel Escobar SS
    6. Garret Anderson LF
    7. Matt Diaz RF
    8. Casey Kotchman 1B
    9. Derek Lowe P

  4. 4
    Andrew B Says:

    Washington:
    Morgan – 8
    Johnson – 3
    Zimmerman – 5
    Dunn – 7
    Willingham – 9
    Guzman – 6
    Bard – 2
    Belliard – 4
    Olsen – 1

  5. 5
    PWHjort Says:

    Francoeur’s career line against Olsen: 7 for 28 with 2 HR, 1 3B, and 3 2B. 1 BB, 6 K. .250/.276/.643

    I hope this means something is afoot.

  6. 6
    Ron E. Says:

    I hope this means Jeff’s tenure in Atlanta is about done.

  7. 7
    Tre Says:

    haha i thought i was reading about tim Tebow for a second then it basically was saying how Jeffy sucks & i laughed again..God is good. lets win the series today!

  8. 8
    ububba Says:

    Dunno what it’s going to look like, but the end is nigh for Turkeyboy.

  9. 9
    RobBroad4th Says:

    Love “Life of Brian.” Very smart, very dark, and always walking that fine line of good taste and bad. It definitely had a big impact on my sense of humor growing up.

    How long did we have to watch Salty sitting on the bench while the details of the Teixeira trade were being sorted out? A while if I remember right….hopefully that’s what Frenchy is doing right now. And hopefully the wait won’t be long.

  10. 10
    RobBroad4th Says:

    1)

    Great article. That OBP quote always makes me mad.

  11. 11
    ububba Says:

    In Catholic high school, we were “advised” not to see “The Life of Brian.” Of course, we saw it the night it opened & laughed our asses off.

  12. 12
    PWHjort Says:

    9,
    It was about 4-5 games.

  13. 13
    Mac Thomason Says:

    What did the nuns say about “The Meaning of Life”?

  14. 14
    PWHjort Says:

    Haha, ububba & Mac, that’s funny. I would imagine the Catholic School teachers weren’t too fond of that “Every Sperm Is Sacred” song.

  15. 15
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Wimbledon broadcaster just compared Federer to Greg Maddux.

  16. 16
    Mike N. Says:

    So Josh Hamilton is a starter with a whopping 125 at bats and a .240 BA with 6 home runs.

  17. 17
    PWHjort Says:

    5 of the 8 NL position players come from the East (Beltran, Ibanez, Hanley, Utley, Wright). Should be 6 (McCann).

  18. 18
    mraver Says:

    Frankly, the only thing I’d like to see are longer outings. Instead of Moylan/Gonzo/Soriano (in whatever order), why not go Moylan for 1.2 and, when a lefty comes up mid-way through the 8th, bring in Gonzo for the last 4-5 outs? Or something to that effect, anyways. Maybe have a LOOGY (not Gonzo) come in to pitch to the leadoff lefty in the 8th inning and back him up with Soriano to finish the game? When Sori is out there getting 6-pitch innings, why not let him go for two innings some times and end up with 80-85 IP on 70 appearances?

    And finally, no reason to complain about ‘pen over-use. This is the first game they’ve lost us in a good long while. It was only getting 3 vs. Lannan that sunk us yesterday. Luckily, I have faith that they’ll score well more than that today.

  19. 19
    cliff Says:

    Anybody know what is up with MLB Gameday? It has only been about a week since I clicked into it from the Braves official site. And, in the past, I have linked it from ESPN Scoreboard. There are no links now (makes me think it is now a pay service?).

  20. 20
    Mac Thomason Says:

    The Prado is now tied for the team lead in doubles.

  21. 21
    Tomas Says:

    Nitram strikes again, again.

    Cliff, not sure what you mean, Gameday works just as usual for me (apart from the highlights which they moved to a premium version).

  22. 22
    Tre Says:

    back to gamecast for me unless someone picks up the stream & puts it on tvants

  23. 23
    PWHjort Says:

    Of course Soriano and Vazquez get snubbed.

  24. 24
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Nick Johnson looks like a plumber.

  25. 25
    Tre Says:

    he’s not one?

  26. 26
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Not professionally.

  27. 27
    Daniel Says:

    I had a brain fart on that one… forgot about the shift and couldn’t understand how Escobar went to Chipper on the DP

    Chances are Beltran will drop and another OF will be added (Dunn?)

  28. 28
    Mike N. Says:

    I was kind of hoping Soriano or Vazquez might be a Final Vote candidate, but there are already 13 pitchers on the roster.

    So now I’m hoping that Adam Dunn is a Final Vote candidate, because that man in the Home Run Derby would be awesome.

  29. 29
    Joshua Says:

    @24 – still rather have him than Kotchman.

  30. 30
    Mac Thomason Says:

    It seems like the Braves should have two all-stars. But Chipper isn’t playing that well by his standard, Yunel hasn’t played enough and is crazy, and nobody else among the regulars is worth a look. So it would have had to be a pitcher, Soriano, Jurrjens, or Vazquez.

  31. 31
    Tony Says:

    A 1st baseman batting 8th in a lineup. Has that ever happened?

  32. 32
    Tre Says:

    would it rain blood if somehow jeffy made the all-star team?

  33. 33
    Mike N. Says:

    Pretty surprised they took 3 backup first basemen. Kind of overkill, don’t you think? I was thinking 2 backup third basemen, with Mark Reynolds making it. Somewhat low batting average with an enormous amount of strikeouts, but still has 23 home runs with a good OPS.

  34. 34
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    Jason Marquis made the All-Star team, and the Rockies already had Brad Hawpe, so he wasn’t a charter member. Jason Marquis is an All-Star and Javier Vazquez isn’t. Tell me how that works.

  35. 35
    Tony Says:

    It’s 70 degrees here in DC in July. SO Lowe should be able to go a long way, if he can keep the ball down.

  36. 36
    Daniel Says:

    Lowe is pissing me off…

  37. 37
    Tony Says:

    Every ball is up. Lowe has been garbage since June.

  38. 38
    Tre Says:

    so is lowe is just pitching like shit?

  39. 39
    Daniel Says:

    @38: That’s generally what you call it when you are losing to the Natinals

  40. 40
    Tre Says:

    touche’ sir, touche’

  41. 41
    PWHjort Says:

    Typical Prado defensive effort.

  42. 42
    Our New Insect Overlords Says:

    Lowe is our No. 5 starter right now.

  43. 43
    Tony Says:

    PRADO is ridiculous….

  44. 44
    Daniel Says:

    Good job, Prado. I knew I added you to my fantasy team for a reason…

  45. 45
    Mike N. Says:

    I added him too! Second base was pretty awful for me on that team, hopefully he finally gives me a consistently good second baseman.

  46. 46
    Tony Says:

    Damn Mac….

  47. 47
    Joshua Says:

    Can we just get rid of Lowe?

  48. 48
    Tony Says:

    That was ugly Prado….very ugly.

  49. 49
    PWHjort Says:

    TYPICAL.

  50. 50
    Tony Says:

    Lowe’s pitches are up, up, up. Not good at all. Near 50 pitches in the 3rd inning. Even the outs are getting smoked.

  51. 51
    braves14 Says:

    Lowe has really been struggling lately.

  52. 52
    jjschiller Says:

    Nah Lowe’s going to be fine. So the sinker is staying up, and the slider’s a little flat. He’ll just have to start getting outs with the…

    Oh.

  53. 53
    braves14 Says:

    Meanwhile, we’re making Olsen look like C.C. Sabathia.

  54. 54
    Tony Says:

    The Phillies beating the Mets again….

  55. 55
    jjschiller Says:

    Come on, quick inning here Lowe. Get our guys back up making outs again. If we can’t win, we can at least lose more quickly.

  56. 56
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Marquis is leading the NL in wins, that’s why.

  57. 57
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Look at it this way, the Braves have developed their first all-star starting pitcher since Kevin Millwood!

  58. 58
    Mac Thomason Says:

    What really sucks is that as the only backup catcher, McCann will be nailed to the bench until the ninth.

  59. 59
    Mike N. Says:

    Seriously though, what the hell is the point of having four first basemen?

  60. 60
    Daniel Says:

    Sandoval might make it and help with the Catching

  61. 61
    Tony Says:

    Oh well….

  62. 62
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Well, Fielder and Gonzalez clearly belong. (As, of course, does the starter, Pujols.) The problem is Howard, probably the most overrated player in baseball today. Among qualifying NL batters, he is 33rd in Offensive Winning Percentage, behind not only the three real All-Stars at the position, but also Todd Helton, Derrek Lee, Nick the Plumber, and Adam LaRoche(!).

  63. 63
    Tony Says:

    Since his manager is managing the All-Star game, I can see why Howard is going. Although I don’t think he belongs this year either.

  64. 64
    Ethan Says:

    Sandoval has caught two games all year.

    Me 3 days ago:

    “Both Vasquez and Jurrjens should be on the team. However, we’ll probably get Jason Marquis and Randy Johnson.”

    If I’d replaced Marquis with Johan, would’ve nailed it

    Scott Olsen isnt this good

  65. 65
    Mac Thomason Says:

    The players picked the reserves, not the manager, right? Howard’s on the team because he’s hit 20 homers, but then, Jay Bruce has hit 18 and he’s on the verge of Louisville.

  66. 66
    Stu Says:

    Seriously, this is Scott Olsen. Can we please start scoring runs in bunches?

  67. 67
    jjschiller Says:

    Here comes the best shot we’re likely to get: Prado, Chip and Mac. I say that because we aren’t going to get much of a shot at that sketchy bullpen unless we draw some pitches out of Olsen.

  68. 68
    Daniel Says:

    PRADO!

  69. 69
    Tony Says:

    This Morgan guy is making me sick….

  70. 70
    Mac Thomason Says:

    And I will rant on about Howard, but I feel very strongly about this for some reason — I just don’t understand why people don’t realize that all he does is hit homers, and that he’s simply not a very good player, much less a great one.

  71. 71
    braves14 Says:

    Why exactly did Pittsburgh have Morgan in left and McLouth in center?

    Pathetic.

  72. 72
    Stu Says:

    It amazes me how I can swing from optimistic to totally hopeless about this team’s chances in less than 48 hours. This is not the first time it’s happened this year.

  73. 73
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Because they’re dumb.

  74. 74
    jjschiller Says:

    Eight pitch inning, and the first guy WALKED.

    Seriously?

  75. 75
    Tony Says:

    Wow…a leadoff walk, with the heart of the order coming up and get nothing.

    I would rather have Ryan Howard than Casey Kotchman.

  76. 76
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Yeah, but nobody’s pushing Kotchman for the All-Star Game or voting for him for MVP.

  77. 77
    Ethan Says:

    This game is very, very important. Losing 2/3 to the Nats negates all of the good work against the Phillies

  78. 78
    braves14 Says:

    Annoying that the Braves seem to be in a hurry to catch the plane.

  79. 79
    Daniel Says:

    Lowe should have been run for in the 5th.

    @71

    McLouth started last year with Jason Bay and Xavier Nady on his sides. He went on to win a golden glove.

    Taking him out of his golden glove position would be a slap in the face regardless of the decision’s merits.

  80. 80
    braves14 Says:

    He was awarded the Gold Glove after the year was over and the other guys were already gone.

  81. 81
    Our New Insect Overlords Says:

    We’re making Olsen look like Babe Ruth.

  82. 82
    Tony Says:

    The last thing the Braves needed….a short outing by their “ace”.

  83. 83
    Daniel Says:

    My point is he was given a gold glove for CF prior to Nyger being a full-time player…

  84. 84
    braves14 Says:

    I’m pretty sure that Morgan was starting last year after Bay and Nady were traded.

  85. 85
    Tre Says:

    Olsen for the cycle!!

  86. 86
    Tre Says:

    3 runs for gods sake get three more runs

  87. 87
    PWHjort Says:

    Daniel,
    Why is that point relevant? They save more runs by putting Morgan in Center and McLouth at a corner. So why wouldn’t they do it? Even if he won a gold glove.

  88. 88
    Tony Says:

    Manny Acosta vs. Ryan Zimmerman with the bases loaded. Interesting.

    Good job…

  89. 89
    braves14 Says:

    Francoeur would not have made that play.

  90. 90
    Daniel Says:

    I said regardless of the merits of the decision, it is a slap in the face. Just ask Texas and the Young/Andrus situation in the offseason.

    Not everything in baseball makes baseball sense…

  91. 91
    cliff Says:

    @87, PHWjort,

    Because managing is really about managing the sensibilities of the players and if a better lineup or defensive arrangement BY THE NUMBERS might upset them, then a good manager shouldn’t do that.

  92. 92
    Tony Says:

    Do we have to use Francouer now? Damn…

  93. 93
    Mike N. Says:

    Lets place bets on what kind of DP he hits here. I’m going 5-4-3.

    Or a foul out to RF.

  94. 94
    braves14 Says:

    89 MPH fastball right down the middle, and he is late and fouls out on the first base side. Horrendous.

  95. 95
    Stu Says:

    Stenchy sucks.

  96. 96
    Tony Says:

    Francouer is horrible…

  97. 97
    Mike N. Says:

    “I didn’t like that at bat”- Joe Simpson. Really? You didnt?

  98. 98
    PWHjort Says:

    Why didn’t we just let Acosta hit?

  99. 99
    PWHjort Says:

    If you’re making a decision that results in a sub-optimal arrangement based on not wanting to “upset” your players you’re running your organization very badly.

  100. 100
    Tony Says:

    Nats broadcaster Carpenter has given no respect to any Braves hitter besides Chipper. Sort of funny actually.

  101. 101
    Adam M Says:

    The Braves have hitters?

  102. 102
    Daniel Says:

    I wasn’t saying it was optimal, I was just giving an explanation.

    MASN just televised the seventh inning stretch as someone sang “God Bless America.” Her ability paralleled that of the Nationals.

  103. 103
    Weldon Says:

    Ok, then the Pirates were running McLouth out in center because they knew they were going to trade him and his value would be much higher as a center fielder than a left fielder.

    The Braves are killing me.

  104. 104
    PWHjort Says:

    103,
    There’s a rational explanation. Though I’m not convinced they were planning on moving him. I feel like that was a spur of the moment deal.

    I would pay 5$ for a video of Tommy Hanson chasing Tim Hudson with a remote-control Helicopter.

  105. 105
    Tony Says:

    @Daniel

    LOL…I tried to listen to the little girl sing, but it was too painful. Had to change the channel.

  106. 106
    Mike N. Says:

    Dammit

  107. 107
    Stu Says:

    Is that the first Yunel from Prado? Only a half-inning after a Prado by Yunel!

  108. 108
    Tony Says:

    That was dumb play by Prado.

    How quickly that Phillies series will be forgotten.

    Marlins win and Phillies are winning….

  109. 109
    Daniel Says:

    Shown up by Olsen…

    Wow… looks like we are going to give the Nats their first complete game win…

  110. 110
    PWHjort Says:

    This team disgusts me.

  111. 111
    the braves blow here Says:

    Aww don’t make Olsen bunt he has 2 hits and ruby today!

  112. 112
    Mac Thomason Says:

    “Ruby”?

    Why can’t they find a hat that fits Medlen?

  113. 113
    Tony Says:

    Morgan looks like an idiot with his mouth full of tobacco. Someone should remind him that it’s 2009.

    Well let’s go get the Cubs at Wrigley, and the Rockies in Denver.

  114. 114
    Frank Says:

    @100–not even McCann?

  115. 115
    PWHjort Says:

    Can we just wave a white flag?

  116. 116
    Tony Says:

    @Frank. Nope. Not even McCann.

  117. 117
    the braves blow here Says:

    ruby=rbi

  118. 118
    braves14 Says:

    Kotchman sucks.

    Braves 3-6 hitters are 0fer today.

  119. 119
    Stu Says:

    I probably would have hit Conrad for Kotchman and Ross for the pitcher…but I’m sure it wouldn’t matter much.

  120. 120
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Though the 3-5 hitters do all have one walk.

  121. 121
    jjschiller Says:

    This is so typical Braves. Put a few on the board in the 9th and fall short.

  122. 122
    Tony Says:

    Prado is amazing at the plate.

  123. 123
    Daniel Says:

    4-4 and a walk… beautiful regardless of baserunning gaffe

  124. 124
    Tony Says:

    That was ball 3….

  125. 125
    jjschiller Says:

    Chipper has nerves of steel.

  126. 126
    Tony Says:

    Good eye….

    C’mon Mac…

  127. 127
    braves14 Says:

    McCann is due.

  128. 128
    Stu Says:

    Ouch. Very bad series.

  129. 129
    Tony Says:

    Very bad series indeed.

  130. 130
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Game thread is up. Francoeur sucks.

  131. 131
    Richard Says:

    I thought all we needed was Francoeur to be gone. Looks like we still suck.

  132. 132
    marc schneider Says:

    This team disgusts me. They are losers, I’m sorry to say. There is nothing to like about this team. These guys do nothing but talk about how good they are or should be.

    The lack of heart on this team is especially apparent after watching Federer and Roddick leave it all on the court.

    As for Lowe, that’s a lot of money for a number 5.

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