“Hi, I’m Atlanta Braves outfielder Jeff Francoeur, and I suck.”
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My sources at Turner Field have indicated to me that Garrett Anderson has, as of 3:15 PM, now retrieved Derek Jeter’s double, and is proceeding to throw the ball back to the infield.
Here’s a thought: I know the Mets just released him, but Wily Mo Pena is a free agent. The Mets signed him in April and assigned him to Triple-A Buffalo.
Pena hit .276 and 5 homers in 41 games. His OBP sucks (at .296), but he’d be a cheap stab in the dark, with more power than we’re getting now.
5 BB to 28 K’s. Ouch…but unfortunately, as a cheap gamble, I’d take it for a few weeks.
Come on, Mac. You can do a better Jeffy tag than that! How about, “I just got a one way ticket from Delta to Kansas City! I wonder what this commercial shoot will be about?”
I voted someone else as defensive MVP: Dave Ross. Not only has he been great at throwing out runners but he has managed to teach it to McCann too.
I agree with Ron, I expected better than that from you.
Maybe, “Hi, I’m Atlanta Braves outfielder Jeff Francoeur, and I’m having an affair with a graduate student from Portland State. Please don’t tell Katie!!!”
Also it’s the rubber game in the College World Series championship series, been a good one between probably the two best teams in college ball this year, Texas and LSU.
12 — AAR, overall soccer can be boring. But the way they don’t have any commercial breaks really sucks me in. Can’t stop watching because you don’t want to miss that one stroke of brilliance (or luck). I’ve surprised myself about how pumped I’ve been over US scores when I happen to be watching in my office at school. I don’t really follow soccer, but I like national team play. World Cup and European Cup are definitely fun.
Big win for USA.
By the way… I think the Braves are also on ESPN360 tonight.
Soccer is a cool game in person. Like basketball some of the more interesting action is off the ball. I’m jaded though as all 4 of my kids have played or are still playing the game.
ububba, thanks for the reply. I thought there was a chance that you might know him because he’s a drummer in NYC involved with electronic musicians and fairly active. He plays with some friends of mine from Athens, Ga as well as !!!(ChkChkChk)and the Juan McClain. He’s recently sat in on drums with the Field, Moby, MSTRKRFT and I think LCD Soundsystem.
On Cory Hart. He isn’t a bad ballplayer. If cost is defined as what players it would take to obtain him then he may be too expensive. IMHO I’m not sure he is worth a good starter and the Brewers in a winnable division need an MLB ready pitcher. So unless Wren is willing to part with one of his starters or he can convince the Brewers that Medlen meets the definition of MLB ready I don’t see how we match up.
I vaguely remember semi-watching the World Cup a few years ago in the mornings (extremely hungover) while working down at the Lake of the Ozarks.
Basically, it went: Team A kicks the ball down the field. Everyone runs after it. Team B then kicks the ball the other way. Everybody runs after it. Rinse and repeat 682048295774 times.
Very, very, rarely, the ball goes into the net, but most of the time I was already back asleep.
Please Braves, win a series tonight. Also, if we all chipped in, how much do you all think it would cost to pay someone to go Tonya Harding/Nancy Kerrigan on Frenchy?
I mean, I objectively realize that the US beating Spain — who just won the Euro championship last year — is awesome for my country. And playoff soccer, like any sport, is electric, and fun to watch with other people who are really into it. Particularly when beer and salty food are involved. But soccer is a sport where 10 guys dither around in midfield for about an hour and a half, interrupted occasionally by a shot on goal.
It does not satisfy my American need for, you know, things to happen. It’s more like watching a foreign film or an indie drama than an action movie.
“Basically, it went: Team A kicks the ball down the field. Everyone runs after it. Team B then kicks the ball the other way. Everybody runs after it. Rinse and repeat 682048295774 times.”
Well, it’s wilfully ignorant in the sense that I don’t watch unless it’s like the World Cup or the Euro and I’m with friends. But I don’t watch because it’s boring.
I’ve genuinely enjoyed watching World Cup matches in pubs—more for the atmosphere, actually—but I probably more enjoy tweaking my Euro friends about this country’s general disinterest for the sport.
“You people have no taste, mate, no taste.”
“No, we just have no attention span.”
dirt,
I like a lot of that stuff, and we’ve done stories & reviews on most of those acts you mention, but it’s always from the DJ angle.
For example, we’ve done stories on LCD Soundsystem, but it’s always on singer/producer James Murphy, who also DJs. We’ve done stories on Tommy Lee, but it’s always on his DJing, not the drumming—we’d leave that for Modern Drummer mag.
Lotta idiots with short attentions spans make the same argument about baseball — it’s slow and boring because nothing ever happens. Suppose it’s all a matter of preference. Personally, I think plenty is happening during a soccer game.
I was gonna type out a tongue in cheek rant about all you soccer haters being Francoeur loving, truck ball dangling, mantit jiggling, nascar liking, fake tit whacking, Toby Keith listening, American simpletons, but instead I’ll just point out that your arguments that “nothing happens” and “it’s boring,” in addition to being untrue and wrong, are the same things people who don’t “get it” say about our beloved baseball.
I enjoy watching baseball but I can definitely understand how people find the game boring. There are a lot of times where nothing is happening. What kind of ticks me off is when people say baseball is an easy sport.
@26: i wouldnt say that hart sucks. im not a big fan, and i wouldnt be thrilled if we got him, but he provides value. and i dont mean compared to francoeur because everybody represents an improvement over him.
If you get to call me a “snob” for thinking that soccer, the most popular sport in the world, is slightly more complex than “people kicking the ball and running after it,” then I get to call you a knukcle dragging, mouthbreather for thinking that.
Okay. I’ll admit that “stuff happens” during soccer. It’s just stuff I find boring. Perhaps if I put as much effort into soccer as I put into baseball, I’d overcome my prejudice and love it… but look, it’s hard enough for me to watch the Pirates play the Nationals. I’m not gonna watch MLS, and I’m not gonna watch Albania play Luxemberg.
I wouldnt give up any SP that we have for just Hart, Im including Huddy and Medlen in that also. If they want to give us some top position prospects along with Hart, then maybe
Worked with a true English soccer hooligan for awhile. He was one of the most self-destructive people I ever met.
And absolutely hilarious. Went about the world with his middle finger in the air.
They let him run the bindery cutter – used a 5-foot blade they called a guillotine. No one died. I think.
IIRC, the hooligans would start drinking early, drink and blow horns all through the game and then fight outside the stadium. And then do it all over again the next week.
Hey, that sounds a lot like Clemson football fans …
I dnt like the idea of Medlen because we need some cost controlled pitchers for the near future.
KK might be a good fit, but is a soild SP worth an average OF, not really.
Is Hart even average?
His VORP this year is 5.9, so he’s better than replacement level…unlike a certain RF I know with a -8.9 VORP. I don’t know what average VORP for a RF is, but Hart is ranked 19th in MLB.
I would give up Jo-Jo for him in a heartbeat, but not Medlen of Kawakami.
Hart’s not great but he’s not awful, either. He’d represent a massive improvement over the current OF (but so would a lot of guys). No way you give up a proven starter for him, but Medlen and Frenchy for Hart? I’d think about that. Brewers might want another prospect, but frankly, they’re going to need to clear out a corner spot for Mat Gamel soon, anyways, since he’s less of a 3B than Ryan Braun.
I think the Braves see Medlen as depth. Lowe is signed through 2012, Kawakami through 2011, Hudson and Vazquez through next year, Jurjjens for 4 more years I think, and Hanson for 5 or 6. Even if Hudson’s option is declined, I still don’t see Medlen cracking the rotation until 2011, barring a trade or an injury. Point is, I think they see him as a step above James Parr, rather than just a step below Jurjjens.
Also… Nobody wants Jo Jo Reyes. Jo Jo is not much of a trade chip.
I’ll accept that. I admit baseball, football, and golf are the extent of my sports interests. However, you’re correct in that if its the most popular sport in the world, there must be something to it I’m just not picking up. Not that I have any interest to, but I’ll admit that it’s probably there.
It’s too bad you cannot make prop bets about how a player would do in acertain situation during a baseball a game. Francoeur would make me millions.
I said it a few days ago, but watching the Groundhog continually go up the the plate to fail is like seeing a guy with ED getting continually cast as the main lead as a porno.
For all the persistent suck of Francouer, and the prolonged slump Kelly’s going through, Kotchman has still been our worst hitter since coming off the DL.
Michael Kay does absolutely zero research of the opposing team. He’s of the belief that Furcal left the Braves for the Dodgers *last* offseason and that this Yunel Escobar fella that replaced him is a pretty good player in his first year with the Braves. Wonder where he came from.
Half the posters on here could have hit that pitch out, but obviously I’ll take it. Again, at the moment Francoeur is a better hitter than Kelly or Kotchman.
if ububba is around, I’d really like his comment on this from a NY perspective, but one thing I’ve never understood why it doesn’t get talked about is that nobody likes throwing to Posada. It’s always been this way, but now I think it’s at least getting a little run because Joba would rather have Cervelli behind the plate than Posada.
EDIT: Maybe that’s why he wanted Cervelli in there tonight.
acosta would be bad with the bases loaded. he walks too many. on the other hand, bennett is bad with the bases loaded because he’s prone to give up the grand slam.
Ethan is right, that was a classic ‘pitcher that should only be used in low leverage situations’ vs ‘hitter that should only be used in low leverage situations’ battle
“Blow-Up” Bennett strikes again. That 0-2 pitch, just awful.
jjbag,
Posada situation has been discussed a lot up here. Clemens hated pitching to him & he’s reportedly never gotten along with Girardi, even when they were teammates.
As it relates to pitchers, from what I’ve read and heard, it’s as much his personality as it is how he calls a game.
He’s a bit of a clubhouse enforcer, a get-in-your-face kind of guy, sometimes a little too passionate for some folks.
ububba, if memory serves, I don’t think Randy Johnson pitched to Posada either, but perhaps he along with Clemens aren’t the two easiest guys to get along with.
I guess that point I was trying to make is that Piazza always got ripped on because of his defense and Posada seemingly gets a free pass for guys flat out no wanting to pitch to him (a worse problem to me), and nobody (maybe outside of NY) ever brings it up.
I was trying to think of a time where I have, at any level, watched the runner get hit on that play and not called. When you hit the runner, it’s usually automatic, except for tonight apparently.
The Braves have won one World Series in Boston, one in Milwaukee, and one in Atlanta. In order for us to become competitive again, we have to move cities. Simple as that.
The Braves had 11 outs to get. The first 15 were retired and the 16th batter reached and was picked off. 11 outs. And somehow the Yankees have scored 8 runs (and counting) in only 10 outs. Pathetic. Francoeur still sucks.
Shut-up Sutcliffe. They only started hitting when the Braves put in the midget Medlen, Bennett who is horrible, O’Fl, and Acosta who efforts have been well-documented in Atlanta.
“Hi, I’m Atlanta Braves outfielder Jeff Francoeur, and I suck.”
Beat the Yanks
June 24th, 2009 at 2:16 pmMy sources at Turner Field have indicated to me that Garrett Anderson has, as of 3:15 PM, now retrieved Derek Jeter’s double, and is proceeding to throw the ball back to the infield.
June 24th, 2009 at 2:28 pmIf Anderson can keep hitting, then I don’t mind if he lolly gags for a ball from time to time
June 24th, 2009 at 2:36 pmHere’s a thought: I know the Mets just released him, but Wily Mo Pena is a free agent. The Mets signed him in April and assigned him to Triple-A Buffalo.
Pena hit .276 and 5 homers in 41 games. His OBP sucks (at .296), but he’d be a cheap stab in the dark, with more power than we’re getting now.
5 BB to 28 K’s. Ouch…but unfortunately, as a cheap gamble, I’d take it for a few weeks.
June 24th, 2009 at 2:43 pmCome on, Mac. You can do a better Jeffy tag than that! How about, “I just got a one way ticket from Delta to Kansas City! I wonder what this commercial shoot will be about?”
I voted someone else as defensive MVP: Dave Ross. Not only has he been great at throwing out runners but he has managed to teach it to McCann too.
June 24th, 2009 at 2:51 pmI agree with Ron, I expected better than that from you.
Maybe, “Hi, I’m Atlanta Braves outfielder Jeff Francoeur, and I’m having an affair with a graduate student from Portland State. Please don’t tell Katie!!!”
Anybody else want to give it a go?
June 24th, 2009 at 2:55 pm(Double Post)
June 24th, 2009 at 2:55 pmMolina is awesum! McCan sux cuz hes got glasses! LOL!
NEway I can put Jeovannie Soto and Molina on the team at the same time? They good!
June 24th, 2009 at 3:04 pmHaha, I like that one.
June 24th, 2009 at 3:06 pmSame lineup as last night per DOB.
June 24th, 2009 at 3:10 pmHow ’bout USA soccer?
It’s over in South Africa. US wins 2-0 ending Spain’s unbeaten streak. On to the finals vs. Brazil.
June 24th, 2009 at 3:24 pmDamn. If only soccer wasn’t boring…
June 24th, 2009 at 3:30 pmAAR-
What do you think about Wily Mo Pena?
June 24th, 2009 at 3:38 pmBraves are on ESPN2 tonight.
Also it’s the rubber game in the College World Series championship series, been a good one between probably the two best teams in college ball this year, Texas and LSU.
June 24th, 2009 at 4:25 pm12 — AAR, overall soccer can be boring. But the way they don’t have any commercial breaks really sucks me in. Can’t stop watching because you don’t want to miss that one stroke of brilliance (or luck). I’ve surprised myself about how pumped I’ve been over US scores when I happen to be watching in my office at school. I don’t really follow soccer, but I like national team play. World Cup and European Cup are definitely fun.
Big win for USA.
By the way… I think the Braves are also on ESPN360 tonight.
June 24th, 2009 at 4:29 pmI get to watch baseball!
Soccer is a cool game in person. Like basketball some of the more interesting action is off the ball. I’m jaded though as all 4 of my kids have played or are still playing the game.
June 24th, 2009 at 4:38 pmububba, thanks for the reply. I thought there was a chance that you might know him because he’s a drummer in NYC involved with electronic musicians and fairly active. He plays with some friends of mine from Athens, Ga as well as !!!(ChkChkChk)and the Juan McClain. He’s recently sat in on drums with the Field, Moby, MSTRKRFT and I think LCD Soundsystem.
Anyway, just curious…
June 24th, 2009 at 4:44 pmI am not a soccer guy, but even I know this is probably the biggest win in US soccer history.
June 24th, 2009 at 5:02 pmOn Cory Hart. He isn’t a bad ballplayer. If cost is defined as what players it would take to obtain him then he may be too expensive. IMHO I’m not sure he is worth a good starter and the Brewers in a winnable division need an MLB ready pitcher. So unless Wren is willing to part with one of his starters or he can convince the Brewers that Medlen meets the definition of MLB ready I don’t see how we match up.
June 24th, 2009 at 5:06 pmwould you trade vazquez straight up for hart?
June 24th, 2009 at 5:07 pmSure, if I was a moron.
June 24th, 2009 at 5:08 pm20- Not a chance.
If you trade Vazquez, its for an all-star or some serious prospects.
June 24th, 2009 at 5:09 pmhow about kenshin for hart?
June 24th, 2009 at 5:12 pmI vaguely remember semi-watching the World Cup a few years ago in the mornings (extremely hungover) while working down at the Lake of the Ozarks.
Basically, it went: Team A kicks the ball down the field. Everyone runs after it. Team B then kicks the ball the other way. Everybody runs after it. Rinse and repeat 682048295774 times.
Very, very, rarely, the ball goes into the net, but most of the time I was already back asleep.
Please Braves, win a series tonight. Also, if we all chipped in, how much do you all think it would cost to pay someone to go Tonya Harding/Nancy Kerrigan on Frenchy?
June 24th, 2009 at 5:12 pmMy #9 comment was in response to #6, FWIW
June 24th, 2009 at 5:13 pmHart sucks. He only is good in comparison to Francoeur and Giles.
June 24th, 2009 at 5:14 pmI’m holding my tongue on you guys’ soccer comments.
June 24th, 2009 at 5:15 pmI mean, I objectively realize that the US beating Spain — who just won the Euro championship last year — is awesome for my country. And playoff soccer, like any sport, is electric, and fun to watch with other people who are really into it. Particularly when beer and salty food are involved. But soccer is a sport where 10 guys dither around in midfield for about an hour and a half, interrupted occasionally by a shot on goal.
It does not satisfy my American need for, you know, things to happen. It’s more like watching a foreign film or an indie drama than an action movie.
June 24th, 2009 at 5:16 pm“Basically, it went: Team A kicks the ball down the field. Everyone runs after it. Team B then kicks the ball the other way. Everybody runs after it. Rinse and repeat 682048295774 times.”
…sounds like something Francoeur might say.
(That’s right. I went there.)
June 24th, 2009 at 5:17 pmAAR – I’m not a soccer guy, but, your comment at 28 is just… willfully ignorant.
June 24th, 2009 at 5:19 pmWell, it’s wilfully ignorant in the sense that I don’t watch unless it’s like the World Cup or the Euro and I’m with friends. But I don’t watch because it’s boring.
June 24th, 2009 at 5:21 pmI’ve genuinely enjoyed watching World Cup matches in pubs—more for the atmosphere, actually—but I probably more enjoy tweaking my Euro friends about this country’s general disinterest for the sport.
“You people have no taste, mate, no taste.”
“No, we just have no attention span.”
dirt,
I like a lot of that stuff, and we’ve done stories & reviews on most of those acts you mention, but it’s always from the DJ angle.
For example, we’ve done stories on LCD Soundsystem, but it’s always on singer/producer James Murphy, who also DJs. We’ve done stories on Tommy Lee, but it’s always on his DJing, not the drumming—we’d leave that for Modern Drummer mag.
June 24th, 2009 at 5:21 pmToo much energy expended for a game where very few points are scored.
June 24th, 2009 at 5:24 pmIn fairness to Douglass, I know I get offended when people say the same thing about baseball.
June 24th, 2009 at 5:25 pmLotta idiots with short attentions spans make the same argument about baseball — it’s slow and boring because nothing ever happens. Suppose it’s all a matter of preference. Personally, I think plenty is happening during a soccer game.
June 24th, 2009 at 5:25 pmI was gonna type out a tongue in cheek rant about all you soccer haters being Francoeur loving, truck ball dangling, mantit jiggling, nascar liking, fake tit whacking, Toby Keith listening, American simpletons, but instead I’ll just point out that your arguments that “nothing happens” and “it’s boring,” in addition to being untrue and wrong, are the same things people who don’t “get it” say about our beloved baseball.
June 24th, 2009 at 5:26 pmI enjoy watching baseball but I can definitely understand how people find the game boring. There are a lot of times where nothing is happening. What kind of ticks me off is when people say baseball is an easy sport.
June 24th, 2009 at 5:28 pmAh, soccer snobs. Gotta love ‘em.
“The Beautiful Game” can indeed be tedious and if those damned Italians blew those fluggelhorns any longer, I think I would have shot my tv.
Still, the game as played by the Brazilians is a treat.
OT: I think today is the 25th anniversary of REM’s release of their best album. Damn, I’m old. So are you, ububba.
June 24th, 2009 at 5:29 pm@26: i wouldnt say that hart sucks. im not a big fan, and i wouldnt be thrilled if we got him, but he provides value. and i dont mean compared to francoeur because everybody represents an improvement over him.
can david ross learn to play outfield, please?
June 24th, 2009 at 5:31 pmIf you get to call me a “snob” for thinking that soccer, the most popular sport in the world, is slightly more complex than “people kicking the ball and running after it,” then I get to call you a knukcle dragging, mouthbreather for thinking that.
June 24th, 2009 at 5:35 pmSoccer is not boring. Cycling is boring.
June 24th, 2009 at 5:39 pmOkay. I’ll admit that “stuff happens” during soccer. It’s just stuff I find boring. Perhaps if I put as much effort into soccer as I put into baseball, I’d overcome my prejudice and love it… but look, it’s hard enough for me to watch the Pirates play the Nationals. I’m not gonna watch MLS, and I’m not gonna watch Albania play Luxemberg.
If it’s the playoffs, I’ll watch. Fair enough?
June 24th, 2009 at 5:40 pmSansho, I’ll agree with you there. Compared to cycling, soccer is Terminator 2 crossed with Lethal Weapon.
June 24th, 2009 at 5:41 pmUgh, A Braves Thread hijacked by soccer
Who is a realistic trade piece for Hart, tough to figure.
June 24th, 2009 at 5:44 pmJo Jo would have been…
@44: Medlen, maybe? I wouldn’t like that, but it’s not like we’re utilizing Medlen right now.
June 24th, 2009 at 5:49 pmI don’t think Medlen fits what the Brewers are looking for. I think closer to Kawakami.
June 24th, 2009 at 5:51 pmI wouldnt give up any SP that we have for just Hart, Im including Huddy and Medlen in that also. If they want to give us some top position prospects along with Hart, then maybe
edit: I would give them Jo Jo
June 24th, 2009 at 5:52 pmWorked with a true English soccer hooligan for awhile. He was one of the most self-destructive people I ever met.
And absolutely hilarious. Went about the world with his middle finger in the air.
They let him run the bindery cutter – used a 5-foot blade they called a guillotine. No one died. I think.
IIRC, the hooligans would start drinking early, drink and blow horns all through the game and then fight outside the stadium. And then do it all over again the next week.
Hey, that sounds a lot like Clemson football fans …
June 24th, 2009 at 5:52 pmI dnt like the idea of Medlen because we need some cost controlled pitchers for the near future.
June 24th, 2009 at 5:53 pmKK might be a good fit, but is a soild SP worth an average OF, not really.
Is Hart even average?
“Jo Jo would have been…”
Nobody wants Jo Jo Reyes.
June 24th, 2009 at 5:58 pmAccording to OPS+ Hart is about average.
2007: 126
2008: 93
2009: 102
His VORP this year is 5.9, so he’s better than replacement level…unlike a certain RF I know with a -8.9 VORP. I don’t know what average VORP for a RF is, but Hart is ranked 19th in MLB.
I would give up Jo-Jo for him in a heartbeat, but not Medlen of Kawakami.
June 24th, 2009 at 6:01 pmHart’s not great but he’s not awful, either. He’d represent a massive improvement over the current OF (but so would a lot of guys). No way you give up a proven starter for him, but Medlen and Frenchy for Hart? I’d think about that. Brewers might want another prospect, but frankly, they’re going to need to clear out a corner spot for Mat Gamel soon, anyways, since he’s less of a 3B than Ryan Braun.
June 24th, 2009 at 6:15 pmI think the Braves see Medlen as depth. Lowe is signed through 2012, Kawakami through 2011, Hudson and Vazquez through next year, Jurjjens for 4 more years I think, and Hanson for 5 or 6. Even if Hudson’s option is declined, I still don’t see Medlen cracking the rotation until 2011, barring a trade or an injury. Point is, I think they see him as a step above James Parr, rather than just a step below Jurjjens.
Also… Nobody wants Jo Jo Reyes. Jo Jo is not much of a trade chip.
June 24th, 2009 at 6:16 pm@29
I’ll accept that. I admit baseball, football, and golf are the extent of my sports interests. However, you’re correct in that if its the most popular sport in the world, there must be something to it I’m just not picking up. Not that I have any interest to, but I’ll admit that it’s probably there.
KK looks good.
June 24th, 2009 at 6:20 pmIt’s all a matter of taste & I could care less if someone likes baseball or not. Having a sense of humor is another matter…
hank,
June 24th, 2009 at 6:21 pmI’m assuming you mean Reckoning, and yes, I’m so old I actually reviewed it for my college newspaper. It really does wear well over time.
espn guys really talking up bmac.
June 24th, 2009 at 6:21 pmMCLOUTH!!!!
June 24th, 2009 at 6:31 pmnate!
June 24th, 2009 at 6:31 pmTouche, Nate
June 24th, 2009 at 6:31 pmnice play.
June 24th, 2009 at 6:32 pmFor all the talk about McLouth being a crappy outfielder, he’s been pretty good so far.
June 24th, 2009 at 6:33 pmACHE is swinging a good bat.
June 24th, 2009 at 6:37 pmSo much for this inning.
June 24th, 2009 at 6:41 pmJeffy nickname of the day: Francoeut.
June 24th, 2009 at 6:43 pmIt’s too bad you cannot make prop bets about how a player would do in acertain situation during a baseball a game. Francoeur would make me millions.
I said it a few days ago, but watching the Groundhog continually go up the the plate to fail is like seeing a guy with ED getting continually cast as the main lead as a porno.
June 24th, 2009 at 6:47 pmShit
June 24th, 2009 at 6:49 pmOuch.
June 24th, 2009 at 6:53 pmWe are a snakebitten team.
June 24th, 2009 at 6:54 pmwhy is kk out?
June 24th, 2009 at 6:54 pmDrilled in the crux of the neck/shoulder by a comebacker from Joba
June 24th, 2009 at 6:56 pmHow bad is KK hurt?
June 24th, 2009 at 6:56 pmLeaving aside the pain of losing Interleague Monster Kenshin Kawakami’s pitching, he has a higher batting average than Diory.
June 24th, 2009 at 6:56 pmHope KK is OK. If he is his new nickname is Neck.
June 24th, 2009 at 6:57 pmNecKK.
Was that double off the wall again?
June 24th, 2009 at 6:58 pmThat’s perfect.
Edit: Go Medlen!
June 24th, 2009 at 7:02 pmEthan, you can do that, it’s called betting the under on most Braves games. Seems to be working pretty well for me this season.
June 24th, 2009 at 7:04 pmMEDLEN!
June 24th, 2009 at 7:05 pmthey say medlen is 5ft 10. looks about Belliard like to me. Hope KK is ok.
June 24th, 2009 at 7:05 pmMedlen now has 22 strikeouts in 22 1/3 IP.
June 24th, 2009 at 7:06 pmjust to the base of the wall. espn guys talking about Pirates salary dump.
June 24th, 2009 at 7:07 pmman sutcliff talks incessently
June 24th, 2009 at 7:07 pmMedlen’s fastballs seemed a bit much down the middle, but the two breaking balls were nasty. Might just be a little nerves.
June 24th, 2009 at 7:10 pmThat’s funny. ESPN2 is suggesting the low homerun/game rate at Turner Field is some sort of park dynamic and not correlated to our crap offense.
June 24th, 2009 at 7:11 pmway to not bother, ACHE
June 24th, 2009 at 7:16 pmFor all the persistent suck of Francouer, and the prolonged slump Kelly’s going through, Kotchman has still been our worst hitter since coming off the DL.
June 24th, 2009 at 7:16 pmMichael Kay does absolutely zero research of the opposing team. He’s of the belief that Furcal left the Braves for the Dodgers *last* offseason and that this Yunel Escobar fella that replaced him is a pretty good player in his first year with the Braves. Wonder where he came from.
June 24th, 2009 at 7:16 pmUm… they’re not making that up. Braves pitchers have allowed 28 homers in road games, 17 at home. Braves hitters have 33 on the road, 20 at home.
June 24th, 2009 at 7:17 pmMedlen has good stuff.
June 24th, 2009 at 7:21 pmAccording to Gamecast, that was a perfect strike.
June 24th, 2009 at 7:23 pmBeautiful pitch by Medlin
Nobody say it…
June 24th, 2009 at 7:23 pmUgh, Swisher has a fauxhawk and it looks somehow even worse on him than it does generally.
June 24th, 2009 at 7:24 pmFWIW Yankee announcers are making same point re The Ted and HRs.
Totally agree on Kay. Discussion of Esco was assinine
June 24th, 2009 at 7:24 pm@87
I should have clarified they were noting the shift in its hr/game rate. They were noting it is now the lowest HR ballpark in the majors.
Edit:
I think they will shut us out.
^^^
I said that as the pitch was in the air.
June 24th, 2009 at 7:25 pmholy sh!t
edit–over/under on the time until gadfly shows up?
June 24th, 2009 at 7:26 pmthe GROUNDHOG!!!!!!!!!
June 24th, 2009 at 7:26 pmFrenchy?! Dammit, we’ll never hear the end of this…
June 24th, 2009 at 7:26 pm“stunned”
June 24th, 2009 at 7:26 pmFrenchies the BEST!
June 24th, 2009 at 7:26 pmComeback Player of the Year!!
Really nice inning by Medlen.
(stupid delayed stream)
June 24th, 2009 at 7:27 pmThat’s at least twelve weeks.
June 24th, 2009 at 7:27 pmBlind squirrel!
June 24th, 2009 at 7:27 pmhere comes a contract for Frenchy…
June 24th, 2009 at 7:27 pmHalf the posters on here could have hit that pitch out, but obviously I’ll take it. Again, at the moment Francoeur is a better hitter than Kelly or Kotchman.
June 24th, 2009 at 7:28 pmhere comes a contract for Frenchy…
time for one of those Delta to Copenhagen commercials
June 24th, 2009 at 7:30 pmHey, if Copenhagen wants to trade a bottle of Aquavit for Frenchy, that’s fine by me.
June 24th, 2009 at 7:30 pmahh.. nate just missed that hanger
June 24th, 2009 at 7:31 pmguys, seriously, let’s not forget who sucks around here. i want to hear it. WHO SUCKS?
June 24th, 2009 at 7:33 pmYeah Kotch is ‘hitting’ the ball pretty softly lately. Last ab for KJ hits the ball hard at least.
June 24th, 2009 at 7:34 pmhmmm ……… francoeur?
June 24th, 2009 at 7:34 pmBummer.
June 24th, 2009 at 7:35 pmGardner has an argument, I think.
June 24th, 2009 at 7:36 pm@111–yep, he sure does
June 24th, 2009 at 7:38 pmbad call
June 24th, 2009 at 7:38 pmif ububba is around, I’d really like his comment on this from a NY perspective, but one thing I’ve never understood why it doesn’t get talked about is that nobody likes throwing to Posada. It’s always been this way, but now I think it’s at least getting a little run because Joba would rather have Cervelli behind the plate than Posada.
EDIT: Maybe that’s why he wanted Cervelli in there tonight.
June 24th, 2009 at 7:39 pmBigger bummer.
June 24th, 2009 at 7:40 pmAre you kidding? Cervelli? Who the hell is this guy?
June 24th, 2009 at 7:40 pmI hate Chip Caray. He would not shut up about it being a no hitter. 2 batters into the inning, home run. Screw you, Chip.
June 24th, 2009 at 7:40 pmdammit
June 24th, 2009 at 7:40 pmFirst career home run. Wow.
June 24th, 2009 at 7:40 pmtalking about a squirrel.
June 24th, 2009 at 7:41 pmCervelli got around the bases on a round tripper faster than ACHE ever would…
June 24th, 2009 at 7:42 pmglad the ump gave that “pick off”
June 24th, 2009 at 7:42 pmIf Rick and Chip ever inhabited the same play-by-play booth, the world would implode upon itself.
June 24th, 2009 at 7:45 pmWhy does Bobby use Jeff F. Bennett so often? I’d rather see Acosta than him.
There’s no way Bennett doesn’t walk in a run here.
June 24th, 2009 at 7:48 pmThis is not the type of situation under which Bennett has known success.
The only redeeming factor is that you could say the same thing about AROD
June 24th, 2009 at 7:49 pmacosta would be bad with the bases loaded. he walks too many. on the other hand, bennett is bad with the bases loaded because he’s prone to give up the grand slam.
June 24th, 2009 at 7:49 pmbrian cashman looks like frank gorshen or a creepy Bond badguy.
June 24th, 2009 at 7:49 pmugh. bennett?
June 24th, 2009 at 7:50 pmCox is a moron
June 24th, 2009 at 7:50 pmCalling it.
Bennett + Fat Fastball + A-Rod = HR.
June 24th, 2009 at 7:51 pmgood Lord between sutcliff and carey its a wonder theres any oxygen left in Atlanta
June 24th, 2009 at 7:51 pmHaha, Bennett is so bad.
June 24th, 2009 at 7:52 pmThat hit there was no surprise. Stupid Bennett.
June 24th, 2009 at 7:52 pmopponents are hitting .313 against bennett. now it’s higher. bennett is some kind of shitty. holy hell.
June 24th, 2009 at 7:52 pmWhy do you throw a strike there????
June 24th, 2009 at 7:52 pmThe guy throws the same pitch 4 striaght times… 4 fast balls. WTF?
June 24th, 2009 at 7:53 pmI think it’s wonderful that Cox get’s Bennett into so many high leverage situations where he performs so well.
June 24th, 2009 at 7:53 pmnot even in a different location… it was 4 fastballs in the same spot
June 24th, 2009 at 7:54 pmwhat a surprise. bobby… haven’t you seen this before?
June 24th, 2009 at 7:54 pmThere again, just bad fundamental baseball.
No reason at all to throw a pitch he could handle with an 0-2 count.
this team just fails to “get it” far too often. Are you listening Bobby? Are you even awake?
June 24th, 2009 at 7:54 pmOH my f*ck. Unreal.
June 24th, 2009 at 7:55 pmIt’s not just that the team is average at best… it’s that the worst players get so many chances to fail.
June 24th, 2009 at 7:56 pmEthan is right, that was a classic ‘pitcher that should only be used in low leverage situations’ vs ‘hitter that should only be used in low leverage situations’ battle
June 24th, 2009 at 7:56 pmI don’t get Bobby’s irrational use of some players like Bennett and Francoeur.
June 24th, 2009 at 7:56 pmFrancoeur homered tonight so that guarantees a loss.
When Jeff does well, the Braves do not.
June 24th, 2009 at 7:58 pm0-2 with ARod in a huge funk, why the hell not throw something for him to chase. That was just stupid.
June 24th, 2009 at 8:00 pm+/- on additional Bravos runs scored tonight .5. Any takers?
June 24th, 2009 at 8:02 pmcan someone else please pitch?
June 24th, 2009 at 8:05 pmAn outfielder with any shred of athleticism might have had a play on that homer. We have ACHE.
June 24th, 2009 at 8:06 pm“Blow-Up” Bennett strikes again. That 0-2 pitch, just awful.
jjbag,
Posada situation has been discussed a lot up here. Clemens hated pitching to him & he’s reportedly never gotten along with Girardi, even when they were teammates.
As it relates to pitchers, from what I’ve read and heard, it’s as much his personality as it is how he calls a game.
He’s a bit of a clubhouse enforcer, a get-in-your-face kind of guy, sometimes a little too passionate for some folks.
June 24th, 2009 at 8:07 pmMike Gonzalez must have been telling Bennett to suck, becuase that;s exactly what he’s doing.
June 24th, 2009 at 8:08 pmBennett = the new Grybo.
He would only give up Medlen’s runs.
June 24th, 2009 at 8:12 pmIf Bobby insists on bringing in Bennett, I’d rater have him in right and have Groundhog pitch.
June 24th, 2009 at 8:14 pmFrancoeur is sooo bad
June 24th, 2009 at 8:17 pmububba, if memory serves, I don’t think Randy Johnson pitched to Posada either, but perhaps he along with Clemens aren’t the two easiest guys to get along with.
I guess that point I was trying to make is that Piazza always got ripped on because of his defense and Posada seemingly gets a free pass for guys flat out no wanting to pitch to him (a worse problem to me), and nobody (maybe outside of NY) ever brings it up.
June 24th, 2009 at 8:18 pmdid Bobby call for a bunt when we are down three runs in the 7th with one out?
June 24th, 2009 at 8:20 pmPrado continuing to hit well
June 24th, 2009 at 8:21 pmjjbag,
Well, it’s not like Posada & the team haven’t been successful since he became a regular. He’s a borderline Hall of Famer.
Hey, it’s a Prado!
June 24th, 2009 at 8:21 pmas of right now, nate mclouth and i both hate turner field.
June 24th, 2009 at 8:27 pmIf Girardi were smart, he’d put Mo Rivera in for the eight. Once the Yanks are past Chipper, McCann, and ACHE, it’s nothing.
June 24th, 2009 at 8:27 pmIf this were “Yankee Stadium” (as opposed to Yankee Stadium) the score would be 14-12.
June 24th, 2009 at 8:27 pmThis team is such a tease.
June 24th, 2009 at 8:29 pmO’Failurety!
June 24th, 2009 at 8:30 pmStupid, Stupid, Stupid
June 24th, 2009 at 8:30 pmAnother free out.
a team with this many offensive holes can’t afford to play bad baseball. That kinda explains the record I guess.
June 24th, 2009 at 8:30 pmWow…you have got to be kidding me.
June 24th, 2009 at 8:31 pmthat was terrible
June 24th, 2009 at 8:31 pmcan O’Fl. get ejected again?
June 24th, 2009 at 8:32 pmCan we give Bennett the nickname Ahmadinejad?
He JUST WON’T GO AWAY.
June 24th, 2009 at 8:33 pmwill these maroons ever show us a replay?
finally, we get the replay and see it’s a bad call
Simpson can’t gripe about bad calls going against the Braves after the Gardner “pick off” saved a run
June 24th, 2009 at 8:34 pmBobby is so trying to get tossed here.
Edit: not hard enough, I guess.
June 24th, 2009 at 8:34 pmMLB regulations clearly state that the Yankees automatically get the benefit of all calls.
June 24th, 2009 at 8:35 pmSeriously, a dead man could have made that call.
June 24th, 2009 at 8:37 pmChipper sucks at 3rd, McCann has been atrocious on defense this year. Glad they can hit…
Gave the 2 runs right back….
June 24th, 2009 at 8:38 pmmake up call at 1b?
June 24th, 2009 at 8:38 pmin all fairness, it should be 5-3 right now, so we still get screwed.
June 24th, 2009 at 8:39 pmI was trying to think of a time where I have, at any level, watched the runner get hit on that play and not called. When you hit the runner, it’s usually automatic, except for tonight apparently.
June 24th, 2009 at 8:40 pmKotchman should have made that first out. I guess he was too busy counting his unearned money
June 24th, 2009 at 8:41 pmThe home plate umpire was scared to death. He is a replacement umpire and clearly blew the call.
I agree O’fla should punch Kotchman right in the nose…
June 24th, 2009 at 8:42 pmI can assure you, Joe Simpson, that Garrett Anderson is NOBODY’S worst nightmare.
June 24th, 2009 at 8:48 pmKotchman sucks.
June 24th, 2009 at 8:48 pmAppreciate Sutcliffe assuming that fans don’t know about bullpen arms needing off days and how a manager has to manage the pen.
June 24th, 2009 at 8:51 pmno need for anyone to get excited–Francoeur hit his June HR earlier tonight
edit–that’s something one doesn’t see very often–Jeffy laying off the slider in the LH batters box
2nd edit–that’s something even rarer–a productive AB from Jeffy
June 24th, 2009 at 8:54 pmShit Caray is a dumbass.
June 24th, 2009 at 8:54 pmHis 5th HR of the season? I know I haven’t been paying attention, but Frenchy only has 5 HRS? Man….
June 24th, 2009 at 8:55 pmWow, that was surprising.
June 24th, 2009 at 8:57 pmYou could throw a drunk fan from the Chop House in the booth and get more out of the game than what Shit Caray gives you.
June 24th, 2009 at 8:58 pmFrenchy will be a 10-5 player (all with the Braves) now…
June 24th, 2009 at 8:59 pmDamn. Two RBI for Fransewer. He’ll survive to September now.
June 24th, 2009 at 8:59 pmFor someone who sucks as much as Stenchy, that was a nice at bat!
June 24th, 2009 at 8:59 pmDamn, that’s usually more pitches than Frenchy sees in a game.
Again, quick Frank! Trade him!
June 24th, 2009 at 8:59 pmIf Frenchy and KJ would do anything…this offense would not be too bad.
When will Infante be back?
June 24th, 2009 at 9:01 pmwell that was a mismatch
June 24th, 2009 at 9:02 pmkj<francoeur? is it really true?
June 24th, 2009 at 9:04 pmKJ looks pathetic. Prado needs to be starting
June 24th, 2009 at 9:04 pmYeah its true at least recently
June 24th, 2009 at 9:05 pmterrible terrible outfielder. my first look at his defense.
June 24th, 2009 at 9:08 pmWhy is Diaz not replacing ACHE in the outfield
June 24th, 2009 at 9:08 pm-Kotchman has the lowest OPS of any 1st baseman in the NL, 2nd to last in the majors
-KJ is 2nd to last in OPS in all of baseball for 2nd basemen
-Frenchy is only ahead of Brian Giles for rightfielders…
And Garrett Anderson should be a DH. That was just painful to watch.
June 24th, 2009 at 9:09 pmBobby Cox has officially lost his god damn mind.
June 24th, 2009 at 9:10 pmthat fastball went about 45 feet
June 24th, 2009 at 9:10 pmI hate this Dave OBrien for espn.
June 24th, 2009 at 9:11 pmThis team is just embarrassing defensively.
June 24th, 2009 at 9:12 pmIs it too hot in Atlanta or something?
June 24th, 2009 at 9:12 pmThis is a comedy of errors defensively.
throw in the fact Medlin, Acosta and Bennett have had to pitch and that;s just too much to overcome.
June 24th, 2009 at 9:14 pmThe Braves have won one World Series in Boston, one in Milwaukee, and one in Atlanta. In order for us to become competitive again, we have to move cities. Simple as that.
June 24th, 2009 at 9:15 pmour bullpen…
where the f*ck is spooneybarger when you need him?
if only KK hadn’t jumped in on the ball like it was a live grenade…
what might have been?
June 24th, 2009 at 9:15 pmThe Braves had 11 outs to get. The first 15 were retired and the 16th batter reached and was picked off. 11 outs. And somehow the Yankees have scored 8 runs (and counting) in only 10 outs. Pathetic. Francoeur still sucks.
June 24th, 2009 at 9:15 pmShut-up Sutcliffe. They only started hitting when the Braves put in the midget Medlen, Bennett who is horrible, O’Fl, and Acosta who efforts have been well-documented in Atlanta.
June 24th, 2009 at 9:16 pmPost #3…you still stand by that?
June 24th, 2009 at 9:16 pmstill only 4 back!
June 24th, 2009 at 9:18 pm@207- Oh man, Tim Spooneybarger would be awesome.
June 24th, 2009 at 9:19 pmHaha…well at least Moylan, Gonzo, and Soriano will be ready for tomorrow. McCann should be off tomorrow, hopefully.
This Dave O’Brien guy is terrible.
June 24th, 2009 at 9:19 pmAre good bullpen arms really that hard to find?
June 24th, 2009 at 9:20 pmNice at bat diaz u freaking hack
June 24th, 2009 at 9:24 pmi’m telling you spooney and “the thing” are just looking for a comeback
June 24th, 2009 at 9:28 pmMedlen will work, but we SERIOUSLY need to get rid of Bennett.
When Campillo is back (when is that again?) will Bennett be gone?
June 24th, 2009 at 9:30 pmRecap is up.
June 24th, 2009 at 9:37 pm