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27 May

It’s not even June yet game thread: May 27, Braves at Giants

I may be able to stay up for this one, but probably not.

229 Responses to “It’s not even June yet game thread: May 27, Braves at Giants”

  1. 1
    Gadfly Says:

    Mac, did you watch this weeks Adult Swim presentation of Mighty Boosh, or is that video just totally a coincidence?

    Did you know Gary Numan has a pilot’s license?

  2. 2
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Just running through the one-hit wonders.

  3. 3
    Stu Says:

    On the bright side, Johnson is a lefty, so Stenchy shouldn’t be totally worthless tonight. At least not at the plate.

  4. 4
    Gadfly Says:

    I figured as much, but Gary Numan and that song featured prominently in this week’s episode. One of the best sketch-style comedy shows in a long time too, in case you’ve never heard of it. On early Monday morning at 1 am, so I usually DVR it.

  5. 5
    Joshua Says:

    @3 – He will go 0-4 with 2 strikeouts…

  6. 6
    Gadfly Says:

    Anyone here whether Chipper’s gonna be in the lineup today? I read he still feels pain batting from the right side.

  7. 7
    oldtimer? Says:

    I keep checking Yahoo sports anticipating a move likes it the trade deadline.
    If he is still on the team Sunday i will be very surprised.

  8. 8
    sansho1 Says:

    One of the coolest streaks in history looks like it’s coming to an end this year — Ichiro has had over 200 hits and over 100 runs scored in all eight of his major league seasons. The latest ESPN projection for 2009* have him collecting 235 hits, but scoring only 62 runs. Thanks for nothing, Betancourt, Beltre, and Junior.

    *which always assume that the player will play every remaining game — don’t ask me why they do it that way, but at least in Ichiro’s case it could actually happen.

  9. 9
    Stu Says:

    @8: He needs a guy like Stenchy behind him, someone who can P those Rs.

  10. 10
    cliff Says:

    For Superfly’s sidekick, G-Fly.

    Three year 2005 to 2008 on Ganderson. Yes, I know he is sliding, but that is not out of his range.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/splits?playerId=3129&type=batting3

    But I don’t get why 2007 is so much better a reflection of Francoeur than 2006, 2008, or 2009 to this point.

  11. 11
    Gadfly Says:

    @7: Well prepare to be surprised. These things take a while, and even if they’ve definitely decided to replace Francoeur I’d expect we make a move to add someone before we find a trading partner for Jeff. We need more of a sure thing than we could get in trade for Jeff (unless we can package him with some spare parts.)

  12. 12
    Dix Says:

    Stenchy IS a spare part. He’s like a ruptured appendix.

  13. 13
    Joshua Says:

    I wouldn’t use Frenchy as a spare part. I’d rather go without.

  14. 14
    ryan c Says:

    this piece is an excerpt from peanut’s blog. please, do not read this if you are in a working environment where insane amounts of laughter is prohibited.

    “When Garret Anderson and Brian McCann returned to the lineup, Jeff Francoeur wasn’t happy about the fact that he was primarily hitting seventh, where he says pitchers were less apt to pitch to him because he had Jordan Schafer and the pitcher’s spot sitting behind him.”

    i didnt realize pitchers pitched to him at all. i know he swings. that’s about all the evidence i’ve seen…

    here’s an interesting piece from mlbtraderumors. nationals ready to deal their vets.
    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/05/nationals-ready-to-trade-veterans.html

  15. 15
    Dix Says:

    I call foul. If he’s really astute enough to realize they’ll pitch around him to get to hitters behind him, he should be astute enough to take pitches and walk when they do.

    However, this comment really belies Stenchy’s incompetence. Surely he knows that pitchers wouldn’t pitch around him to get to two more difficult outs.

  16. 16
    sansho1 Says:

    Damning with faint praise department: I wouldn’t trade Frenchy for Austin Kearns.

  17. 17
    Mac Thomason Says:

    I would. Jeffy’s that bad.

  18. 18
    Gadfly Says:

    @10: I wouldn’t discount 2006 either, which the deeper I look into the stats actually appears to be a decent year for a 22 year old (since I know this will cause controversy more on that after the game or tomorrow, once I get back home to my spreadsheets.)

    I wouldn’t put much weight on 2009, April started good and ended up decent, May has been awful… a similar start to ‘08, which worries me. 2008, as I said before, appears to be a product of mental, emotional and mechanical difficulties. Overcoming these is not easy by any stretch, but it is possible (unlike physical deficiencies.)

    I don’t think 2007’s production is a better representation of what Jeff will do, but it is a clear representation of what he can do. 2008 is likely a better representation of what he will do, only because it is more recent, but 2007 earned him the benefit of the doubt in my book, so I excuse his abysmal 2008 and hope for a rebound in ‘09. He has rebounded a bit from a run production standpoint, which is a huge weakness for this team, so I’ve extended his leash through the All-Star break. If he picks up his run production pace and Garret doesn’t turn around I might be able to excuse it through the end of the year, but if he puts up two consecutive years with a sub-80 OPS he’ll need a change of scenery.

    My main reason for holding out hope with Jeff is based on necessity. I just don’t see Atlanta honestly competing this year without getting contributions from Francoeur and/or Garret, or making a Tex-like myopic trade. We simply don’t have enough ML-ready resources. I feel the best thing is to hold our current course and if we’ve fallen out of contention by the ASB then look into dealing Francoeur and Soriano for building blocks for 2010 and beyond.

  19. 19
    Weldon Says:

    Doesn’t Kearns have a bad contract? I guess I’d take him over Frenchy if the Nationals ate some of the contract.

    Would the Nationals take Morton for Willingham?

  20. 20
    sansho1 Says:

    Kearns is probably better, but I still wouldn’t do it. He still sucks, so what’s the point, and he’s squandered actual baseball talent. Put a gun to my head, and I’ll take dim over lazy.

  21. 21
    Gadfly Says:

    @14&15: Someone posted that yesterday. I’m not sure where the laughter comes in.

    As for taking a walk. You don’t take a walk if there are runners in scoring position if the guy behind you is slugging .103 with RISP, and yes you read that right, .103! You have to expand your strike zone in those situations… just ask the Giants how many games Barry Bonds’ dozens of walks won them in 2007.

  22. 22
    Joshua Says:

    @18 – what necessity are you speaking of? what contributions are you hoping for? The only contributions we are going to get from Frenchy are inordinant amounts of suckage. How is that going to help Atlanta compete this year? Grab almost any outfielder on any other team, and you could pretty much guarantee he would do more for this team than Frenchy. Yes, he is THAT bad.

  23. 23
    Mac Thomason Says:

    No, it’s a bad year. There is no way to make that a good year. However, it’s not uncommon for a player who has a year like that very young to become a good player. It’s a similar year (by OBP and SLG) to Vernon Wells’ Age 23 campaign, and Andre Dawson’s Age 23 campaign. (In Dawson’s case, it wasn’t actually actually a bad season, since offensive levels were so much lower then.) But Wells and Dawson got better.

  24. 24
    Gadfly Says:

    @20: Kearns is making $8 million this year, with a $1 million buyout of next year’s $10 million dollar club option. Kearns isn’t going to make this team anymore competitive, so I’d keep looking.

  25. 25
    Dan Says:

    Randy Johnson has a 6.26 ERA, 1.57 WHIP and a .293 opponent’s batting average; but despite that I bet he looks like an ace tonight.

  26. 26
    Joshua Says:

    @25 – I bet he throws a 2 hitter.

  27. 27
    Gadfly Says:

    @22: There are plenty of outfielders out there that would perform at or below Jeff’s level, but you’ve obviously made up your mind on that point, so I’ll skip to the direct questions.

    I feel it is necessary for us to get quality production out of Jeff and/or Garret in order to compete… whether that is direct production or production from someone we acquired in trade for Jeff. I just don’t see this team competing without adding a big run producing bat, and I don’t see us adding a big run producing bat without making a Tex-like move that would screw us over in the future. Jeff and Garret have shown that they are capable of being that sort of bat in the past, if at least one of them can return to their previous form then we can compete, if they can’t then we just don’t have enough resources to put together a viable run at the division or World Series. I’d rather see us finish 3rd this year and keep developing our youth movement, than trade away the farm to maybe finish 2nd this year and lose in the first round again.

    @23: I’m assuming you’re talking about my comments about ‘06. As I said, I’ll make that case tonight. I should note I didn’t say it was a good year, but the more I look at it, the more decent it is beginning to appear, especially for a 22 year old.

  28. 28
    PWHjort Says:

    Braves Outfield VORP:
    Jeff Francoeur: -4.7 (630/663). Number of PA’s: 185
    Jordan Schafer: -4.1 (619/663). Number of PA’s: 176
    Garret Anderson: – 3.4 (605/663). Number of PA’s: 99
    Matt Diaz: 5.7 (131/663). Number of PA’s: 89

    Apparently the more useless you are in the Braves Outfield, the more plate appearances you’re rewarded with. Makes a ton of sense to me.

  29. 29
    JoeCraigMcMurtry Says:

    PWHjort, all that proves is that Francoeur is still one of the team’s four best outfielders, and the more you look at it the more decent it will begin to appear.

  30. 30
    Mac Thomason Says:

    No, it’s a cumulative stat. ACHE is far more useless than Jeffy.

  31. 31
    bandit31312 Says:

    question_ how bad of an outfielder is Norton? He is not doing anything as a
    ph right now and maybe some plying time woud help?

  32. 32
    PWHjort Says:

    @31,
    How?

  33. 33
    dix Says:

    This is something ur been wondering about and want to hear your thoughts… If the fans vote Manny Ramirez into the allstar game, is that an event that should cause MLB to reconsider banning PEDs? If the fans don’t care about the integrity of the game, or don’t think it’s compromised by PEDs, why ban them?

  34. 34
    PWHjort Says:

    We’ll go Runs Created / 27 Outs
    Jeff Francoeur (72/92 NL Outfielders): 3.11
    Jordan Schafer (69/92 NL Outfielders): 3.50
    Garret Anderson (75/92 NL Outfielders): 2.98
    Matt Diaz (23/92 NL Outfielders): 7.01

    Well, ACHE isn’t THAT much more useless than Francoeur.

  35. 35
    PWHjort Says:

    @33,
    Playing devil’s advocate here. Because they’re terrible for your health.

  36. 36
    Dan Says:

    At least “ACHE” has a track record and was just fine last year.

  37. 37
    bandit31312 Says:

    Yahoo has a headline “Epic meltdown by pitcher” , It was bad but I have seen worse. Zambrano goes nuts but not to the degree of Yahoos story line.

  38. 38
    sdp Says:

    Zambrano’s meltdown was more retarded than “epic.”

    I don’t really have much respect for a guy who’ll get angry at a call, sling the ball into the bleachers, sling his glove into the stands, and then go into the dugout and take a bat to the water coolers. Get real, jackass.

  39. 39
    csg Says:

    Braves could and should release Norton and call up Barbaro

  40. 40
    sdp Says:

    This says it all: “In 210 games since Sept. 19, 2007, Francoeur [has] a .244 average with 16 home runs, 96 RBIs, a .292 OBP and a .367 slugging percentage.”

    http://www.ajc.com/braves/content/sports/braves/stories/2009/05/27/red_sox_francoeur.html

  41. 41
    Dix Says:

    I think we’ve already said it all and then some with respect to Stenchy’s ineptitude.

  42. 42
    Dan Says:

    It’s joke lineup night:

    1. Diory Hernandez, SS
    2. Kotchman, 1B
    3. Chipper, 3B
    4. Prado, 2B
    5. Diaz, LF
    6. Francoeur, RF
    7. Ross, C
    8. Schafer, CF
    9. Kawakami, RHP

  43. 43
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Without Yunel and against Johnson, I don’t see much else Bobby could do. If Yunel and Infante were healthy, Kotchman would be sitting too. Nobody has lefties face Johnson; only 32 PA by lefties against him this year. He could be a LOOGY until he’s 60.

  44. 44
    Tiger224 Says:

    Lord have mercy…that lineup couldn’t beat Cal State Fullerton.

  45. 45
    csg Says:

    we’ll score 6+ runs tonight

  46. 46
    csg Says:

    David O’Brien

    May 27th, 2009
    8:36 pm
    Talked to someone in Braves organization who sort of dismissed the Red Sox rumor. Said he hadn’t heard one thing about them having any serious interest in Francoeur or scouting him recently.

  47. 47
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Well, obviously they couldn’t have scouted him recently and still have interest in him.

  48. 48
    Gadfly Says:

    @33: Because PED are an afront to everything that athletic competition should stand for, they interrupt the integrity of the game, and they are a harmful influence in youth athletics. Allowing them in the game forces anyone who wants to compete at the highest levels to intentionally harm their body.

    Also, I don’t think I’d take Manny being voted into the All-Star game as proof that fans don’t care about PEDs, only that a subset of fans don’t care enough to keep a big name out of an exhibition… All-Star fan voting is and always will be a fraud.

    @39: If the Braves release Norton, which I’m beginning to think makes sense, they should call-up Brandon Jones, not Barbaro. That way we can see if Jones could actually fill one of our corner outfield spots without having to completely give up on Jeff or Garret.

    @42: I can’t believe that… why is Diory in the leadoff spot instead of Schafer? If Schafer is going to ever contribute on this team he’s going to have to learn to leadoff, and he’s actually fared well in that role leading off innings and in the one or two games he’s been in the 1 hole… oh, right, I forgot Johnson was pitching before I wrote all this… hahaha… I can see why we wouldn’t throw him to that wolf just yet.

  49. 49
    Dan Says:

    I can’t believe that… why is Diory in the leadoff spot instead of Schafer?

    Lefties apparently can’t face Randy Johnson, even though they’re hitting .333 against him this year.

  50. 50
    csg Says:

    Gadfly, do you really want Schafer leading off against Randy Johnson?

    here some lifetime stats for you: Johnson vs LH

    499IP 359H 142BB 587K .198BAA

  51. 51
    ryan c Says:

    does anyone have a real answer as to why diaz gets no love from the braves organization?

  52. 52
    bandit31312 Says:

    csg , u cant use lifetime stats when talking to gad, u must use the francour conversion factor and fit the timeline to suit your needs

  53. 53
    Gadfly Says:

    @50: Did you read my whole post? I just got in from two hours of basketball and was reading it without thinking of the context. I guess I should’ve just deleted it, but I wanted to repeat that I do think Schafer needs to eventually hit leadoff or get sent down. Batting him 8th isn’t really helping him develop the skills he needs to be developing now.

    Those are some insane stats though… almost a 1.00 WHIP for his career against lefties, wow. Here’s another amazing one: Right/Left PA split: 14812/2046! Only 12.1% of the batters he’s faced have been right-handed, Glavine is? at 20.5%, Hampton’s at 20.6%, Pettite’s at 21.6%, and Moyer’s all the way up at 25.5%. It surprises me that Glavine is #2 on this list, with the old “neutralize his changeup” line of reasoning.

  54. 54
    csg Says:

    sorry gadfly, didnt read all of it

  55. 55
    Gadfly Says:

    @52: Lifetime stats are a good start, especially with a player nearing the end of a long career like Johnson. With a 25 year-old player who has had a wildly inconsistent first 4 Major League seasons, when he probably shouldn’t have been in the Majors for the first third of that, you need to look a little deeper.

    @54: No problem, I don’t think many do, and sometimes I can’t blame them. You probably should before you respond to it though.

  56. 56
    Frank Says:

    ACHE is far more useless than Jeffy.

    Mac sucks up to gadfly. :-)

    Re the lineup tonight–at least Diaz is in and Anderson is out.

  57. 57
    Mac Thomason Says:

    I don’t particularly want to, but I would guess that if you go through the lefties who have faced Johnson, you’d find that most of them are really good hitters. And check out last year.

  58. 58
    csg Says:

    and that wasnt a strike, btw

  59. 59
    Our New Insect Overlords Says:

    I hope K2’s strike zone is as generous as the Unit’s.

  60. 60
    braves14 Says:

    I think I would have led off with Prado and batted Diaz cleanup.

  61. 61
    Frank Says:

    any news on Esco’s return or dl?

  62. 62
    braves14 Says:

    Peanut writes that the Braves are going to wait a few more days, and if he still can’t go they’ll probably DL him retroactive to his injury and call up Brooks Conrad.

  63. 63
    Frank Says:

    thanks–that’s going might deep on the organizational depth chart

  64. 64
    braves14 Says:

    Yep. Conrad isn’t on the 40 man, either, but I think there’s room for him to be added.

  65. 65
    Mac Thomason Says:

    There aren’t any other infielders on the 40-man, and Conrad has been hitting. He’s also hit more than 20 homers in each of the last four seasons.

  66. 66
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Not this again.

  67. 67
    braves14 Says:

    For some reason, Oakland never really gave him a chance at the big league level.

  68. 68
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Also, I’ll link to this. Baseball journalism has a lot of stupid people.

  69. 69
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Actually, Conrad was mostly with the Astros — the A’s just got him last year, and at least they gave him a cup of coffee.

  70. 70
    braves14 Says:

    Figures. The Astros don’t like young players with potential. ( See the mishandling of Chris Burke)

  71. 71
    Frank Says:

    So Conrad has 20 hr each of the past 4 seasons–wonder if he can play OF. Probably not much worse than some of the other characters we trot out there.

  72. 72
    braves14 Says:

    Andy Pettitte has 230-some odd wins and if his arm holds up has an outside shot.

    Edit: Actually, 219, and he’s 37. Probably not. Mike Mussina had a real chance with 270 but retired last year after winning 20 games.

  73. 73
    Mac Thomason Says:

    He played the outfield corners a little last year with Sacramento. Can’t be worse than ACHE.

  74. 74
    braves14 Says:

    Now they’re showing highlights from Johnson’s perfecto. I remember that was right after Ben Sheets had 18 Ks against us (and I think that was the same series as the Giles/Andruw collision). What an awful week that was.

    That was 5 years ago? Holy crap.

  75. 75
    Mac Thomason Says:

    We were shut out for the first seven innings the next day.

  76. 76
    Frank Says:

    a perfect game requires lots of luck–no bloop hit, seeing eye grounders, etc.–but this year’s offense is entirely capable of such ineptitude

  77. 77
    Weldon Says:

    @66 – Ah, why the hell not. If you’re gonna lose, might as well be a part of history. No one’s ever had 2, right?

  78. 78
    braves14 Says:

    Way to catch and tag, Diory.

    Way to catch a pitch, David.

    This sucks.

  79. 79
    Rob Cope Says:

    Could Chris Low make Kiffin look any more like an embarrassed little puppy covering his balls with his tail? Love it. When the SEC commissioner is telling Lane Kiffin to shut the heck up, I think ole Laney should take a hint…

    http://myespn.go.com/blogs/sec/0-6-246/Over-signing-may-be-a-thing-of-the-past-in-SEC.html

  80. 80
    Weldon Says:

    Wow, you don’t see that every day.

  81. 81
    drew Says:

    Well, this game just became farce.

  82. 82
    braves14 Says:

    Way to fall down, David.

  83. 83
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Great. Vaudeville.

  84. 84
    Stephen in the UAE Says:

    I don’t think that I have ever seen a runner get picked off twice and score! Then again, this is Atlanta Braves baseball….

  85. 85
    Our New Insect Overlords Says:

    I’ve started playing “Yakety Sax” on my iPod during particularly rancid Braves performances such as this one. It’s like pairing a gourmet dinner with the perfect wine … or washing down a Spam sandwich with Milwaukee’s Best.

  86. 86
    ububba Says:

    That was an awful throw by our shortstop.

    Edit: Or our Prado.

  87. 87
    Jeremy Says:

    I thought it was Prado who made the throw.

    Not that it matters.

  88. 88
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Hey, a hit!

  89. 89
    braves14 Says:

    Hey, a hit! A double by Diory, no less.

  90. 90
    braves14 Says:

    That was creepy.

  91. 91
    jea Says:

    All hail Diory! Way to help the Braves avoid a particularly specific type of ignominy.

  92. 92
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Today in search requests:

    Frank Wren sucks
    Jeff Francoeur sucks
    Red Sox Stenchy

  93. 93
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Easy question. Blyleven.

  94. 94
    Mac Thomason Says:

    And with that, I am going to go to bed. I’ll recap this atrocity in the morning.

  95. 95
    braves14 Says:

    And now Chipper’s hurting. What’s next?

  96. 96
    Stu Says:

    79—And Low is a UT guy!

    That “double steal” might be the Pradoest Prado we’ve yet seen.

  97. 97
    RobBroad4th Says:

    Chipper was definitely grimacing.

  98. 98
    Jeremy Says:

    I don’t quite understand how the moron scorekeeper can rule that a double steal. Rowand stopped halfway down the goddamn line and didn’t break for home until Ross fell down thanks to the errant throw.

  99. 99
    Stephen in the UAE Says:

    This game just keeps getting better….

  100. 100
    Jeremy Says:

    Prado doesn’t even know how many outs there are.

  101. 101
    RobBroad4th Says:

    98,

    My guess is they can’t call it an error because it was the field’s fault (as ludicrous as that sounds). This is where Chipper twisted his knee when the field gave way two years ago.

  102. 102
    Dan Says:

    The Braves just turned a double play with two outs.

  103. 103
    Our New Insect Overlords Says:

    The definition of “Prado” can now include superfluous outs. This is the stuff of legend.

  104. 104
    Weldon Says:

    Prado with a nice, if unnecessary, turn.

    What’s up with the asian dudes in the new KFC commercial? Are we supposed to believe asian people walk around like that all the time?

  105. 105
    ububba Says:

    Can we surgically remove Prado’s head from his own ass before the next inning?

  106. 106
    stupup74 Says:

    There is not a guy in the lineup today I would want on any team I ran. The ONLY player on this roster that is worth anywhere close to his paycheck is McCann.

    I am so damn tired of Chipper Jones and his glass feet act. How much money did the braves just commit to him? He should have been traded for prospects years ago and then maybe we wouldn’t have to watch stenchy and Ache and Prado and Kawakami and the rest of the crap that make up this team.

    This team sucks.

  107. 107
    Our New Insect Overlords Says:

    Advertisers often ask their viewers to take leaps of absurdity … like back in the ’80s when we were asked to believe that there was some omniscient voice telling pregnant women to use Preparation H.

  108. 108
    RobBroad4th Says:

    Simply terrible.

  109. 109
    RobBroad4th Says:

    Simply terrible.

  110. 110
    Tony Says:

    So the Blue Jays just got swept by the Orioles…so basically the Braves caught the Blue Jays at exactly the right time.

    Poor Francouer….what an embarrassing stat.

  111. 111
    Weldon Says:

    @107 – or that it was totally natural for Jason Alexander to lead a merry band of idiots down the street to trumpet one of the dumber sandwiches ever released, the McDLT:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTSdUOC8Kac

  112. 112
    braves14 Says:

    Molina’s slower than McCann. Wow.

  113. 113
    braves14 Says:

    Yet another Prado. This guy cannot play 2b.

  114. 114
    Tony Says:

    Prado is an idiot. Good grief.

    You send Molina??? I thought Norton was slow…

  115. 115
    Jeremy Says:

    LOL @ Prado

  116. 116
    andrew b Says:

    another prado by prado his 3rd of the night by my count

  117. 117
    Catz Says:

    There’s classic Prado…

  118. 118
    Dix Says:

    That’s on Molina…I coulda got him out

  119. 119
    Dan Says:

    Now that was a “Prado”.

  120. 120
    Stu Says:

    Wow, is Molina ever slow. Nice throw, Stenchy.

  121. 121
    RobBroad4th Says:

    What stat, Tony? So many embarassing things to choose from. Meanwhile…Prado must be on drugs.

  122. 122
    Tony Says:

    Sciambi just said of everyday outfielders eligible for the batting title, Francouer ranks 68 out of 69 in on-base %. Of all 279 players, he is like 270 or something.

  123. 123
    Our New Insect Overlords Says:

    God help the team with No. 69.

  124. 124
    ububba Says:

    Prado must be bonging out between innings. It’s hard to be more lost than he is tonight.

  125. 125
    RobBroad4th Says:

    124, I need some of what he’s on. This game is agonizing and my roommate is eating up.

  126. 126
    Tony Says:

    They should immediately drug test Prado after the game…lol…that was just hilarious, sad, but funny as hell.

    Hernandez is getting comfortable.

  127. 127
    Our New Insect Overlords Says:

    124: Not hard to score some weed in San Francisco, so that’s quite plausible.

  128. 128
    Dan Says:

    Sciambi just said of everyday outfielders eligible for the batting title, Francouer ranks 68 out of 69 in on-base %

    I heard that too. Who the heck is 69th?

  129. 129
    Tony Says:

    Way to go Kotchamn.

  130. 130
    Jeremy Says:

    CASEY KOTCHMAN!

  131. 131
    Weldon Says:

    As spaced out as he’s been, it’s got to be something worse than weed. I’ve seen people play second base higher than kites make better decisions. Prado must have gotten hold of Dock Ellis’ man in the bay area.

  132. 132
    Volume Says:

    man i missed it. did anyone else lose their mlbtv feed?

  133. 133
    Tony Says:

    Didn’t Chipper play in that movie with Bruce Willis? Remember, Bruce couldn’t get hurt, but Chipper was made of glass. I remember it…it was called Unbreakable.

    Good movie.

  134. 134
    braves14 Says:

    Chipper’s really hurting.

  135. 135
    RobBroad4th Says:

    Chipper looks terrible. Oblique is my guess.

  136. 136
    Stu Says:

    Chipper’s looking pretty pathetic. Why is he still in there?

  137. 137
    Tony Says:

    If Chipper is hurting that bad sit him. That was useless. Way to go team leader.

  138. 138
    Dix Says:

    I think that was Samuel L. Jackson. Looks nothing like Chipper.

  139. 139
    ububba Says:

    Yeah, MLB feed dropped out. I’m logging out & logging in.

  140. 140
    braves14 Says:

    135 — The foot is what has (publicly) been bothering him.

  141. 141
    RJ in KS Says:

    Thanks MLB tv. Anyone care to recap what happened?

  142. 142
    Tony Says:

    Seriously, though he looked terrible at the plate. If he is in that much pain…

  143. 143
    Dan Says:

    Chipper swung at two straight ball fours. Was he trying to “make something happen” before Prado got up there?

  144. 144
    Stu Says:

    Kotch singled to left with 2 out to drive in Schafer and cut the lead to 2-1. Chipper then struck out on multiple awkward swings which appear to have been the result of his bad toe.

  145. 145
    Dix Says:

    Chipper to Red Sox?

  146. 146
    Tony Says:

    Schafer singled, was bunted over by the pitcher, Diory hit a ball hard to the third baseman for an out. Kotchman singled to left, Schafer scored. Chipper struck on a terrible swing on a 3-2 pitch.

    Light-hitting Burris just hit a double over Francouer’s head

  147. 147
    braves14 Says:

    Surprised they pinch-hit for Johnson with only 79 pitches thrown.

  148. 148
    Tony Says:

    I take it both Chipper and Yunel are headed to the DL.

  149. 149
    RJ in KS Says:

    Thank you. I got the feed back after the inning was over of course.

  150. 150
    braves14 Says:

    Chipper’s still in the game, FWIW.

    I think KK is toast.

  151. 151
    Our New Insect Overlords Says:

    @147: They probably thought his 299th win was safe. Even safer after they got that third run.

  152. 152
    braves14 Says:

    Doesn’t Ross ever try to block a pitch?

  153. 153
    Putter Says:

    Just not a huge Kawakami fan (still)

  154. 154
    Our New Insect Overlords Says:

    Yeah, but I’d rather see him stay in and try to get one more out than bring in Moylan, who’s been a bloody gas can lately.

  155. 155
    Dan Says:

    Or not.

  156. 156
    Stu Says:

    Why in the world does Bobby keep bringing Moylan in with men on base?

  157. 157
    braves14 Says:

    Why does Bobby keep using Moylan against lefties? Is it a white flag?

  158. 158
    RobBroad4th Says:

    Roommate is waving his broom at me.

  159. 159
    braves14 Says:

    That looked like Burriss is trying to imitate Prado. He failed though, got an error.

  160. 160
    Weldon Says:

    I hate to laugh at your misfortune, RobBroad4th, but I’m laughing at your misfortune.

    Bunt, Frenchy, bunt!

  161. 161
    Stu Says:

    158—Kill your roommate. I doubt anyone would miss him.

    Stenchy is so predictable.

  162. 162
    csg Says:

    ridiculous idea to bring in Moylan, even worse idea to keep Chipper in the game

  163. 163
    Dan Says:

    Same ol’ Francoeur.

  164. 164
    braves14 Says:

    Francoeur takes a mighty cut, connects…and flies out to shallow left center.

  165. 165
    csg Says:

    my lord, the guy before you walks and you hack at the 1st pitch. Frenchy, I really really hate you being on this team!

  166. 166
    RobBroad4th Says:

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but did Frenchy swing at the first pitch three at bats in a row?

  167. 167
    joestave Says:

    Jeffy swung at the first pitch?? Wow, that’s different.

  168. 168
    Marc Says:

    The catcher went up to talk to the pitcher before Frechy batted, no doubt hilarity ensued.

  169. 169
    RobBroad4th Says:

    He’s a Giants fan, his life will be miserable again soon enough.

  170. 170
    Stu Says:

    Goofus and Gallant.

  171. 171
    ububba Says:

    I guess they don’t mind loading the bases with McCann & pitching to anybody else.

  172. 172
    Joshua Says:

    Love it – the guy before and after Frenchy walked, yet he swings at the first pitch. Classic Frenchy!

  173. 173
    Marc Says:

    At least Shaffer didn’t hit into a double play.

  174. 174
    joestave Says:

    @14 “When Garret Anderson and Brian McCann returned to the lineup, Jeff Francoeur wasn’t happy about the fact that he was primarily hitting seventh, where he says pitchers were less apt to pitch to him because he had Jordan Schafer and the pitcher’s spot sitting behind him.”

    It’s this kind of crap that more than anything else shows how hopeless Jeffy is.

  175. 175
    csg Says:

    they should fine our OF’rs for swinging at the 1st pitch against any pitcher

  176. 176
    ryan c Says:

    wow. schafer missed that by 2 feet…

  177. 177
    braves14 Says:

    ACHE!

  178. 178
    Stu Says:

    Well done, Garret.

  179. 179
    ryan c Says:

    that’s a professional at-bat from a professional hitter…or so they will say.

  180. 180
    csg Says:

    ACHE

  181. 181
    Joshua Says:

    Helluva time for Schafer to get his first K of the day.

  182. 182
    RobBroad4th Says:

    ACHE, nice hit.

  183. 183
    ububba Says:

    Yeah, Schafer looked pretty hopeless there, but the ACHE comes through.

  184. 184
    braves14 Says:

    Since May 10, Anderson’s actually been useful. He was hitting .349 between then and 2 days ago, and has gone 2-4 since then.

  185. 185
    ryan c Says:

    it’s now a 1-run game….
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUsYBO5QdVE

  186. 186
    csg Says:

    gotta let KJ hit for Chipper right?

  187. 187
    Stephen in the UAE Says:

    I sometimes wonder if the Braves’ organization teaches hitters to swing at the first pitch….

  188. 188
    JoeCraigMcMurtry Says:

    Can’t wait for Superfly to come back after the game and give us his dissertation on why signing Kawakami was not an egregiously stupid decision by Wren, on par with offering arbitration to that useless sack of turds Francoeur, because we didn’t really need a one dimensional player like Adam Dunn anyway.

  189. 189
    Stephen in the UAE Says:

    I am hoping that if Schafer looks hopeless long enough the Braves will come to their senses….

  190. 190
    ryan c Says:

    biggest surprise of the year…o’flaherty.

  191. 191
    csg Says:

    stephen, its taken them 4 yrs with Frenchy. Dont expect anything soon

  192. 192
    td Says:

    Anderson is fair and I think he will end up hitting for a decent average, but his power is non-existent. If we didn’t have Norton, he would be an okay bench player, but nothing more. Maybe we should release Norton and keep Anderson, but please don’t start Garrett in left!

  193. 193
    joestave Says:

    look, Schafer has looked bad for two months, Jeffy has looked like this for 2 and a half years. I can be patient with Schafer but Jeffy’s time is up.

  194. 194
    Stu Says:

    Can we please get Chipper out of there? He’s killing us at the plate and now in the field. That’s likely an inning-ending DP with Prado at third. (Yes, I’m aware that Prado’s had a brutal game defensively, but he’s better at third than at second.)

  195. 195
    csg Says:

    now Chipper cant move on defense

  196. 196
    braves14 Says:

    O’Flaherty’s giving them right back, though he’s getting dinked and dunked.

  197. 197
    Jeremy Says:

    O’Flaherty’s not getting much help. Schafer misplayed that flyball.

  198. 198
    csg Says:

    this team sucks, good night

  199. 199
    RobBroad4th Says:

    194, agreed.

  200. 200
    td Says:

    O’Flaherty is finally looking mortal. Still, unless he continues to pitch like this after tonight, he is much better than we could have ever anticipated.

  201. 201
    Stephen in the UAE Says:

    We might as well save everybody’s time and bring in Buddy….

  202. 202
    ryan c Says:

    disturbing frenchy fact:
    in 24 may games, flailcoeur has left 52 men on base, but he has 8 rbis.

  203. 203
    JoeCraigMcMurtry Says:

    I think Superfly will also need to give us a dissertation on why offering an extension to Chipper Jones for no good reason whatsoever was not Frank Wren’s biggest bonehead move yet. The guy’s body is clearly breaking down and we give him 42 million over three additional years? We will never win another championship with this front office.

  204. 204
    joestave Says:

    @202 well, that’s what batting 7th will do for you. right?

  205. 205
    sdp Says:

    This damn team is so fucking depressing.

  206. 206
    Stephen in the UAE Says:

    193–True enough, but I would rather not see the Braves ruin another promising young outfielder…

  207. 207
    sdp Says:

    Is it just me or are these West Coast road trips always horrific for us? It seems like every one of them are.

  208. 208
    Stephen in the UAE Says:

    I knew we would see Merkin Valdez again….

  209. 209
    RobBroad4th Says:

    I’m hiding the stupid broom.

  210. 210
    RobBroad4th Says:

    Prado was definitely safe. Like it matters.

  211. 211
    Stephen in the UAE Says:

    sdp–its not just you: but then over the years I havn’t felt that confident when we went to Florida either….

  212. 212
    Stephen in the UAE Says:

    Chipper with 4 Ks….he has spent too much time with Schafer and Stenchy….

  213. 213
    Joshua Says:

    It seems like we always play really bad against the really bad teams and always seem to beat the good ones. Don’t really get that.

  214. 214
    Stephen in the UAE Says:

    #213–I know what you mean…and I think that it does say something….

  215. 215
    braves14 Says:

    Hopefully Chipper sits tomorrow.

  216. 216
    RobBroad4th Says:

    Gotta love Mac.

  217. 217
    Stephen in the UAE Says:

    Swing at that first pitch and swept…

  218. 218
    RobBroad4th Says:

    This line-up is abysmal. I started watching in 1991 and I can’t think of a worse line-up than the one Bobby trotted out today.

  219. 219
    Ethan Says:

    Glad I stayed up for that. Ugh.

  220. 220
    Stephen in the UAE Says:

    At least there was some good news on the farm: Richard Sullivan had a great game at the Beach: a 3 hit shutout with 9 strikeouts…

    Gerardo Rodriquez hit for the cycle at Rome…

  221. 221
    kc Says:

    Hey, back to .500 again! Right at where we belong!

  222. 222
    Stephen in the UAE Says:

    #218–Actually, the way the Braves played reminded of the teams from the 1970s and 1980s….

  223. 223
    Stephen in the UAE Says:

    221–Just like water seeking its level…

  224. 224
    kc Says:

    …or regression back to the mean, ha.

  225. 225
    Weldon Says:

    ryan c Says:

    disturbing frenchy fact:
    in 24 may games, flailcoeur has left 52 men on base, but he has 8 rbis.
    May 27th, 2009 at 11:46 pm

    Ugh. That should do for the recap, nothing else needs to be said.

  226. 226
    Catz Says:

    Did I not predict this would happen… right after we sweep the Jays, we throw that away and get swept by the GIANTS.

  227. 227
    JC Says:

    After his last game with the Braves on May 27, 2005, Raul Mondesi had an OPS of .630. After Jeff’s May 27 game, he has an OPS of .629.

  228. 228
    csg Says:

    JC, but Frenchy has talent and that matters. Look at what he did in April of this season, august of last season, and 2005! If he didnt have to play the rest of the games around those months he’d be an allstar. I cant believe you guys dont notice his 2 out rbis

  229. 229
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Recap is up.

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