25 May
I am at work today game thread: May 25, Braves at Giants
I’d much rather that the afternoon game be the last one of the series is all. I hope the plane got in easily last night.
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I’d much rather that the afternoon game be the last one of the series is all. I hope the plane got in easily last night.
Medlen vs. Lindsay-cum tomorrow. Should be interesting.
May 25th, 2009 at 12:11 pmcontinuing from the previous thread.
The Braves did not have 10 a year for two year to commit to Dunn. Plus they were (justifiably) concerned about his fielding numbers.
However, as to why to commit to Ganderson, that is a lot harder. The team he was with and who had thought of him as one of theirs, didn’t bring him back but DID bring back a guy that could have been a fit at a good price (Juan Rivera, 5.75 maybe a 1 year deal) and Bobby Abreu 6 guaranteed, possible to 8, one year deal.
So if the ANGELS didn’t think they wanted Garrett, why did the Braves?
We also missed on Gabe Gross and Gabe Kapler, either of whom would have been better at a cheap price. And, we apparently didn’t go after Edmonds.
May 25th, 2009 at 12:13 pmObviously, the Braves didn’t have the money, otherwise they would have attempted to sign Dunn. At least, I hope. But they did spend money elsewhere that could have gone towards an outfielder–at least for an Abreu if not for a Dunn.
May 25th, 2009 at 12:18 pmMoney was probably the deciding factor, but didn’t the Braves also have some concerns about Dunn’s defense motivation?
May 25th, 2009 at 12:26 pmI thought someone had said Dunn could have been had for $5 million after asking for something in the ballpark of $15 million. Obviously the Nats paid more than that, but I’m surprised the Braves didn’t offer….at least not publicly.
May 25th, 2009 at 12:29 pmAbreu wouldn’t even give this team what it needs. He would be leaps and bounds better than any outfielder we’ve got, but he wouldn’t be able to get us to the post season. We need some legitimate power, and Abreu doesn’t have it anymore. I was advocating against Dunn most offseason, but I sure would love to have him right about now.
May 25th, 2009 at 12:34 pmSo far, the Braves confidence in
Ganderson’s fielding has been misplaced. I am sure that they thought (the publicly available scouting / reporting systems concurred) that Ganderson was about neutral fielding for left field and that Dunn was minus 30 runs. Dunn is still minus 30, but Ganderson looks minus 20.
IF Ganderson was average in left and hit 20/40/60 (ISO) extra, then he might have been a decent cheap pick up. However, there were others out there that could have been had without commiting 20 million over 2 years.
May 25th, 2009 at 12:36 pmHow much are we paying G.Anserson?
May 25th, 2009 at 1:18 pmNot sure if you guys enjoy Dave Matthews.
May 25th, 2009 at 1:43 pmHere’s a link to listen to the new album on the web:
http://www.pandora.com/davematthewsband
I love it! Go Braves.
oldtimer @8,
2.5 million. Plus 3.4 or so for Francoeur. Together, they are contributing like Blanco or Josh Anderson at the plate and aren’t that good in the field and Blanco or Anderson would have been $400,000 or so.
May 25th, 2009 at 1:50 pmI liked josh Anderson, could have used him in a platoon, lead off, pinch hit and runner.
May 25th, 2009 at 1:56 pmBobby’s at it again–he must have been really bored on the charter last night.
K. Johnson 2b
M. Prado 3b
M. Diaz lf
B. McCann c
J. Francoeur rf
C. Kotchman 1b
D. Hernandez ss
J. Schafer cf
J. Vazquez p
What an insult to Casey.
May 25th, 2009 at 2:07 pmmust be facing a lefty
May 25th, 2009 at 2:20 pmFrenchy is turning it around!! Just in time for the All Star Game!
May 25th, 2009 at 2:33 pmNames of actual men’s tennis players at the French Open this year:
Teimuraz Gabashvili
May 25th, 2009 at 2:34 pmFabio Fognini
Potito Starace
Janko Tipsarevic
Sergiy Stakhovsky
Lukasz Kubot
Jo-Wilfried Tsonga
Daniel Gimeno-Traver
Philipp Kohlschreiber
Maximo Gonzalez
Jurgen Melzer
Sergio Roitman
Diego Junquiera
Ilia Bozoljac
Bjorn Phau
Josselin Ouanna
Denis Gremelmayr
Philipp Petzschner
Rui Machado
Dudi Sela
Now this is a pitcher’s duel.
May 25th, 2009 at 2:35 pmYou know Anderson wouldn’t have caught that.
May 25th, 2009 at 3:13 pmMac,
I suppose you picked up on the fact that Carpenter had a perfect game into the 7th?
He’s BAAACk! (until he is injured
May 25th, 2009 at 3:15 pmNow, that was a Prado.
May 25th, 2009 at 3:29 pmA Prado indeed.
May 25th, 2009 at 3:30 pmTheir offense isn’t the same with Ludwick on the DL.
May 25th, 2009 at 3:34 pmThis would have been a really good day for an Infante start in center. Sigh.
May 25th, 2009 at 3:34 pmIf any series this season will most resemble the Dead Ball Era, it will be this one.
May 25th, 2009 at 3:35 pmNot if Medlen has a reprise of his Rick Vaughn-on-Opening Day performance tomorrow.
May 25th, 2009 at 3:38 pmWhy are the Braves so freaking impatient at the plate? This guy went to a 3-1 count on the pitcher, then kelly comes out and swings at the first two pitches, like just about everyone else in the lineup has.
May 25th, 2009 at 3:38 pmHere’s a quote from DOB today: “I think if (the Braves) do make a move, it’ll come well before trade deadline this time around.”
Well, then. I’m still going to keep my head in the sand about this, but someone is telling him and Peanut that the Braves are rather serious.
May 25th, 2009 at 3:44 pmFrancoeur’s doing his best to sabotage his trade value.
May 25th, 2009 at 3:55 pmJavy should bat fifth.
May 25th, 2009 at 3:58 pmBengie Molina is one fat dude.
Blows my mind that his knees have been able to take the pressure of playing catcher daily.
May 25th, 2009 at 4:05 pmWhy is Javy getting precious here? They are going to get a cheap run and that’ll be the ballgame.
May 25th, 2009 at 4:06 pmGlad I was wrong.
May 25th, 2009 at 4:09 pm+/- for total runs this series is 12.5
Taking the over or the under?
May 25th, 2009 at 4:09 pmI don’t care what any of the defensive metrics say, Brian McCann is a poor defensive catcher. Nice work by Javy pitching around his butchery.
May 25th, 2009 at 4:09 pmSame here. Nice K for Javy.
May 25th, 2009 at 4:10 pm@32:
Under. I’m guessing three 1-0 games, all of them extra innings.
May 25th, 2009 at 4:11 pmSchafer is embarrassing at the plate.
May 25th, 2009 at 4:14 pm#18, Carpenter must be one of the few guys for who you can toss out a stat like, “Cardinals right-hander Chris Carpenter has gone 4-1 with a 3.16 ERA in his first games off of the disabled list during his career”, and it not seem pointless, as BP did today.
May 25th, 2009 at 4:16 pmAnother terrible throw from McCann.
May 25th, 2009 at 4:23 pmThis is brutal.
May 25th, 2009 at 4:24 pmI like how the sports south guys are talking about SF’s offensive woes like our offense is so much better off.
May 25th, 2009 at 4:24 pmWhat’s wrong with Bobby? Uribe fell over the plate. Two years ago Bobby would’ve already been kicked out.
RE McCann @33: I agree. You just hope on most days he won’t be a liability. Unfortunately, today hasn’t been one of them.
May 25th, 2009 at 4:25 pmBallgame.
May 25th, 2009 at 4:27 pmYou gotta be kiddin me!
May 25th, 2009 at 4:27 pmOnly we could make Jonathan Sanchez look like an all star.
Seriously, be patient. He WILL walk you.
Damnit. Take the out.
May 25th, 2009 at 4:27 pmTake. The. Out.
May 25th, 2009 at 4:28 pmI don’t think we will score a run with this lineup in the SERIES.
May 25th, 2009 at 4:29 pmStick a fork in Javier.
May 25th, 2009 at 4:31 pmHow do the Giants ever score a run with that Triple A lineup they regularly send out? Gosh, that’s awful.
May 25th, 2009 at 4:38 pmGood job by Javier to finish off the inning, but why leave him in there in the first place? he was the last out in the top of the inning.
btw, Mac, I’m in the office today too. Though in Canada we had a long weekend last we so I guess nevermind.
May 25th, 2009 at 4:45 pmFinally, some patience.
May 25th, 2009 at 4:46 pmWhy pull Sanchez? Jeffy’s got a doubleplay all ready for them.
May 25th, 2009 at 4:49 pmif bobby was smart, he would let mike gonzalez hit for frenchy. he’ll only strike out.
May 25th, 2009 at 4:50 pmBecause Frenchy is decent against lefties and the worst hitter in the world against RHP. That’d be my guess.
Vazquez pitched well, but the other team will score some runs when you commit two Prados in one game.
May 25th, 2009 at 4:51 pm@28:
Now I really wish Vazquez was batting fifth.
May 25th, 2009 at 4:51 pmFrenchy sucks.
May 25th, 2009 at 4:52 pmOnly one out made. Nice job, Jeffy.
May 25th, 2009 at 4:52 pmGet his pathetic ass out of a major league uniform.
May 25th, 2009 at 4:52 pmGood, he only made 1 out.
May 25th, 2009 at 4:52 pmMcCann may have had a rough defensive day, but he’s the offensive star so far.
May 25th, 2009 at 4:53 pmAt-bats like this are Francoeur’s retroactive petulance for being sent to AA last year … as though he’s saying, “You want to trade me? You’ll get as little as possible for making me spend a weekend in Mississippi. That’ll show you!”
May 25th, 2009 at 4:54 pmLet’s see what you’ve got, Diory. Not much? Okay, Schafer, up to you.
May 25th, 2009 at 4:56 pmWell that was predictable.
May 25th, 2009 at 4:58 pmThat was predictable. Bases loaded one out and don’t get anything. Ugh.
May 25th, 2009 at 4:59 pmwow….they tried to give us the lead, but francoeur and schafer said, “no thanks”.
May 25th, 2009 at 4:59 pmman oh man he swung at some awful pitches
May 25th, 2009 at 5:00 pmIt’s just a black hole in that part of the order.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:00 pmWhat is it about Bobby leaving in Vazquez too long?
May 25th, 2009 at 5:02 pmIs Anderson/Schafer/Francoeur a good outfield by even deadball era standards?
May 25th, 2009 at 5:03 pm@63 – I like how you left Hernandez out of that. At least Schafer had to get a base hit – all Hernandez had to do was hit it to the outfield. Rediculous.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:05 pmDiory is a AAA replacement, he is like 4th stringer on this team but had to start.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:12 pmAll he has to do is catch the ball.
Again, why does Bobby keep leaving in Vazquez after he’s out of steam? This is irritating.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:13 pmOh well, there goes the winning streak.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:14 pmBad start by Vaz. Really no excuse giving up 5 runs to that lineup.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:17 pmHas Bobby forgotten how to double switch? Chasing a game like this there’s every reason to bump Diaz into center and bring in Garret to bat in that 9 spot, and not have to burn Bennett that quickly.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:17 pm@70 – same could be said for Schafer.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:17 pmI have complained about Schafer since he made the roster. He never should have been brought to the big club with so little professional experience.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:21 pmthe called 2nd strike on Kelly was easily a foot off the plate, like it matters anyways
May 25th, 2009 at 5:23 pmTerrible hustle. We should have beaten out those weak hits. Terrible.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:23 pmDoes anyone know the number of times Schafer has had a hat trick this year? And I’m pretty sure hes had at least a couple Golden Sombreros.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:23 pm#78 – its called no speed
May 25th, 2009 at 5:24 pmAnd Frenchy still sucks something god aweful.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:27 pmThey weren’t running hard, fast or no.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:27 pmBuddy is all kinds of awful.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:37 pmI don’t know who to congratulate more, Bobby for the inane intentional walk, or Carlyle for the length and majesty of the home runs he gives up.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:37 pmCan we please get rid of Carlyle now? Bennett might be fixable, but I really doubt Buddy’s got any more to show us.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:37 pmMight as well let Carlyle stay in the rest of the way.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:38 pm#86, I dunno. Don’t want the players to get sunstroke from too much time in the field.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:39 pmFor the first home run of his season, that was an absolute bomb.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:39 pmPrice just had runners on 2nd and 3rd, nobody out and struck out the side. Ouch!
May 25th, 2009 at 5:40 pmIs Buddy this year’s “towel”? We seem to throw Buddy in the game, and by the time he leaves we need a “towel.” I’m not sure how to categorize him.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:41 pmHow did Schafer get to Cleveland so fast?
May 25th, 2009 at 5:41 pmI’d be happy if Bennett, Carlyle and Francoeur were all released after the game.
I know it ain’t happening, I just wouldn’t be heartbroken.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:42 pmMcCann is really good. What is he doing on this team?
May 25th, 2009 at 5:46 pmThere is no reason Gorkys shouldn’t be starting over Schafer. None. Gorkys’ .331/.385/.407 line is pretty hollow, and his 42ks are frightening, but he could certainly do a hell of a lot better than Jordan’s .207/.331/.310 and he plays better defense to boot. The argument that we shouldn’t stunt his development is bogus because that reasoning as easily (indeed better) applies to Schafer who has never put up numbers like Gorkys even at AA. Unless the front office simply considers Schafer expendable, whereas Gorkys has real potential, which is entirely possible.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:46 pmCome on, Jeff, pull this right at the third baseman. You know you want to hit into a triple play.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:48 pmjuff sex!
May 25th, 2009 at 5:49 pmSuperfly, we need an update on all of Francoeur’s runs produced…
May 25th, 2009 at 5:50 pmFrancouer is the worst .
May 25th, 2009 at 5:50 pmOh god for some reason I thought that was the top of the ninth, and now I’m disappointed that the game isn’t over and I will be compelled to listen to another inning.
Over .500 or no, this team remains strangely disheartening.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:54 pmThink Bobby is bad? Carmona just walked 4 straight to start the 2nd, then got an out, then allowed 3 straight singles, then walked another – and he is still in the dang game.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:56 pmI have a feeling Carlyle will be demoted after the game.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:59 pmThis is like the team didn’t get any sleep on the flight last night.
Schafer’s stuck out 4 times in 4 ABs today.
May 25th, 2009 at 6:05 pmThe Golden Sombrero!
May 25th, 2009 at 6:05 pmOur chances to win tomorrow look quite slim with the pitching matchup.
May 25th, 2009 at 6:08 pmFrank Wren is a frigging moron. What is he doing with Schafer? Seriously. Is there any way this can be good for anybody involved? WTF?
May 25th, 2009 at 6:10 pmRecap is up.
May 25th, 2009 at 6:15 pm