15 Apr
Subtropical swamp game thread: Braves at Marlins, April 15
What are the odds we get through this series without a rain delay? Without a postponement?
I thought of dedicating the video above to Mike Hampton, but it seemed cruel.
What are the odds we get through this series without a rain delay? Without a postponement?
I thought of dedicating the video above to Mike Hampton, but it seemed cruel.
I say the odds are 4:1 in favor of a rain delay
April 15th, 2008 at 1:18 pmWhy exactly did the Braves trade Yates to keep Resop? Spring training performance?
April 15th, 2008 at 1:27 pmCan we expect to be Rick Roll’d when the music video for R comes up?
April 15th, 2008 at 1:27 pmMoylan to the DL . It doesn’t look good.
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April 15th, 2008 at 1:30 pmAt this rate, Resop’s going to be the closer by mid-May.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:33 pmMan, we’ve been unlucky, injury-wise, and it’s only mid-April.
Losing Moylan is a big deal.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:41 pmI smell a Chipper foot injury coming on.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:42 pmJeez…it just keeps getting better & better.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:42 pmGood thing we have Mike Hampton on our training staff.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:47 pmDamn. Moylan is a pretty big loss.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:54 pmNo Soriano and no Moylan. This looks like the worst bullpen in the NL right now.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:56 pm2007? More like 2006 when we had relievers w/o control of their limbs in the bullpen.
Manny freaking Acosta is our closer.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:57 pmCan we bring Bob Wickman back?
April 15th, 2008 at 1:58 pmwhat’s worse than craptastic? losing moylan and soriano
April 15th, 2008 at 1:58 pmWho’s going to pitch the set-up innings? Ohman and Boyer? At least Boyer throws hard and strikes people out.
April 15th, 2008 at 2:04 pma trade for a reliever looks like a good idea. maybe we recall some power off the bench and trade pena soon and keep carlyle where he belongs (not in the majors).
April 15th, 2008 at 2:12 pmMaybe we and Tigers fans should lobby MLB for an ’08 season mulligan.
April 15th, 2008 at 2:24 pmThis is some tough stuff so far. Our 2 best relievers and # 3 starter, yikes.
And, I’m no Chicken Little, but I’d be less than truthful if I didn’t admit to being constantly worried about Smoltz.
But…just gotta suck it up and score some runs.
Different Trouble in Metland:
April 15th, 2008 at 2:25 pmAfter the 9-7 loss to Milwaukee, Omar Minaya & Willie Randolph had an hour-long, closed-door meeting.
We’re doomed! DOOOOOOOMED!!!!!! Everyone, hide in the cellar!
Look, we don’t know yet Moylan’s status going forward. (Though mysterious elbow pain is obviously not good.) Glavine is indicating that he’ll be fine. Nobody’s run and hid from the division yet. Teixeira will wake up, and if Diaz doesn’t wake up he’ll be put to bed and replaced by B-Jones. Chipper’s gotten through his first injury with no missing PA that mattered. It’s a long season. Take a few deep breaths.
And after all, at least they’re not the Falcons.
April 15th, 2008 at 2:29 pmI agree with Mac. We’re DOOMED!!!
Just kidding…
April 15th, 2008 at 2:35 pmDevil’s Advocacy:
Glavine is indicating that he’ll be fine.
Glavine is 42 years old. How fine is his fine?
Nobody’s run and hid from the division yet.
Nobody but us has gotten all these games against the Nats and Pirates, either.
Teixeira will wake up…
Andruw was gonna wake up last season, too.
…and if Diaz doesn’t wake up he’ll be put to bed and replaced by B-Jones.
Who says Jones will be any good?
Chipper’s gotten through his first injury with no missing PA that mattered. It’s a long season.
It’s April 15 and Chipper’s already had his first injury. It’s a long season.
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I’m not nearly as negative as the above would indicate, but I think there are legitimate reasons for concern (perhaps the biggest being the back-of-the-mind fear noted by ububba) even this early.
April 15th, 2008 at 2:36 pmMoylan on the DL Hurts
April 15th, 2008 at 2:37 pmI’d be stunned if Jones isn’t at least league-average. He’s hit in the high minors and there’s no hole in his game that I can see. He won’t be a star, but he should be a good player, Garret Anderson without the press.
Here’s the thing about Smoltz… any pitcher can get hurt at any time. Smoltz isn’t really that much more likely to get disasterously hurt than Brandon Webb. Minor aches are another matter, and we need to be careful, but the thing is that there’s little evidence of him slowing down.
Hey, here are some positives:
Hudson looks great.
April 15th, 2008 at 2:40 pmEscobar looks even better than great.
Chipper is doing what he did last year.
McCann is doing what he did two years ago.
Kotsay has been a lot better than I thought.
Jones reminds me of a young left-handed Brian Jordan.
April 15th, 2008 at 2:45 pmAgree with all the positives.
Re: Jones, I agree about his projection, but I can’t rule out the distinct possibility of an adjustment period (perhaps all of 2008) that would be no better than what Diaz gives us.
Also, I strongly disagree with the notion that Smoltz is no more likely to suffer a major injury than Brandon Webb.
April 15th, 2008 at 2:45 pmI’m going to try to break the land-speed record for not thinking about Moylan on the DL…
Hey, here’s something nice: Bill James breaking down the all-Alabama team against the all-Oklahoma team. (Scroll about halfway down.)
Bill’s conclusion: “You might have me. Alabama’s team is pretty good.”
April 15th, 2008 at 2:46 pmThis year is officially a disaster.
I say we go to a three man rotation and count on Smoltz, Hudson, and Jurrjens to go 9 each time out.
April 15th, 2008 at 2:47 pmMac,
here’s something negative: 5-7 !
April 15th, 2008 at 3:00 pmToo bad our rotation doesn’t include 300 IP men like Mordecai “Three Finger” Brown, Christy Mathewson or Jim Palmer.
April 15th, 2008 at 3:00 pmImagine how bad it’d be now if the Braves dumped Hudson like so many here wanted in September 2006 and the 2006-2007 offseason.
But I think Mac is right. Glavine seems to be okay. No one trusted Hampton. It’s no where but up for Teixeira and Diaz. And eventually one of Soriano, Gonzalez or Moylan will be back. Maybe all three if things really go right. The Mets and Phillies are both under .500 too.
Let’s not drink the cyanide just yet.
April 15th, 2008 at 3:01 pmOn the DL:
Phillies –
Mike Zagurski
Francisco Rosario
Scott Mathieson
Braves –
Mike Hampton
Mike Gonzalez
Rafael Soriano
Peter Moylan
Omar Infante
Anthony Lerew
Mets –
Pedro Martinez
Orlando Hernandez
Moises Alou
Ramon Castro
Ambiorix Burgos
Duaner Sanchez
Jason Vargas
Matt Wise
Looks like the Mets are winning the injury race. It’s the recent concern over Smoltz and Glavine that has me freaked out. Otherwise, we truly are better equipped to handle injury.
Have the Phillies even had an issue. Lidge, right?
April 15th, 2008 at 3:28 pmShane Victorino is on the DL for the Phillies.
April 15th, 2008 at 4:24 pmMoylan appeared in 6 of our first 7 games; this isn’t exactly a shocker.
Still, as people have said, this (combined with Soriano’s thing) is actually a rather big blow to the pen.
We may well see Kris Medlen (7.1 IP, 6H 8K 0BB for Mississippi) by mid-season. If nothing else, it’ll make sure we maintain our quota of side-armers.
April 15th, 2008 at 4:26 pmWhat Posnanski said:
Only include Chris Resop.
April 15th, 2008 at 4:42 pmthe DUMP DIAZ in ’08 bandwagon is rolling !!!! what happened to the love? hes still doing better than our much-vaunted cleanup hitter that everyone was ready to mortage the farm for….. this is getting to be like the daily injury reports in football. these guys need to spend less time in the weight room and more time in the bar….. get rid of the high protein fakeshakes and mix in some greasy cheeseburgers and bar-b-q. works for me……….just had my first physical exam in 24 yrs.(the wife insisted) and passed with flying colors………….now if i could only not cringe with every pith that john smoltz throws…………………….
April 15th, 2008 at 4:43 pmSomeone tell me, why Carlyle and not Stockman or Schreiber?
April 15th, 2008 at 4:57 pmI’m not ready to give up on Diaz yet, barrycuda.
Schreiber’s struggling so far, but I agree about Phil Stockman. Free Phil Stockman!
April 15th, 2008 at 5:02 pmDiaz will turn it around against FLA, count it
April 15th, 2008 at 5:06 pmNew nickname for Chad Poranto and Bob Wickman from the Florida broadcasters – “The Beef Brothers”
April 15th, 2008 at 5:12 pmChipper walks the line!
April 15th, 2008 at 5:13 pmI wouldn’t count Kotsay as a positive. He’s hitting .250/.313/.409
April 15th, 2008 at 5:16 pmWhich is the kind of line that will be a drag on the lineup but won’t get him taken out.
April 15th, 2008 at 5:20 pmcheck out the list of relievers that we’ve lost toFA, released, traded, or waived since last season
Paronto
Villareal
McBride
Ledezma
Ascanio
Startup
Yates
Wickman
Colyer
Dotel
Mahay
Devine
who am I missing
April 15th, 2008 at 5:22 pmDavies as a starter.
April 15th, 2008 at 5:26 pmyeah, I was just looking at the relievers. No wonder we are now getting short handed
April 15th, 2008 at 5:28 pmJurrjens with just 16 pitches through 2.
April 15th, 2008 at 5:32 pmWill our offense be able to wake up against Scott F. Olsen? Not so far.
April 15th, 2008 at 6:06 pmI smell another one-run loss . . .
April 15th, 2008 at 6:14 pmWhat good does you to score 10+ runs every 5 games when in the other 4 you score 2.
This is just not a good baseball team. Not very well constructed and is “thrifty” to me. Just reeks of thrift.
April 15th, 2008 at 6:26 pmNew nickname for Chad Poranto and Bob Wickman from the Florida broadcasters – “The Beef Brothers”
It’s been done. On this site no less in July 2006. See #69:
http://www.bravesjournal.com/?p=2510
April 15th, 2008 at 6:27 pmWasted 2 on, nobody out, heart of the order situation against the frakking Marlins. How annoying.
April 15th, 2008 at 6:33 pmPathetic. Sorry guys it just is. I love the Braves but this is just sorry.
April 15th, 2008 at 6:33 pmWtf was that? Pushing him to the ground? JJ better plunk that punk in the head his next at bat.
April 15th, 2008 at 6:33 pmI don’t think Tex should keep counting on Francoeur to bail him out.
That was a very disappointing inning.
April 15th, 2008 at 6:34 pmThis team is depressing.
April 15th, 2008 at 6:35 pmPut me down for 80-82.
April 15th, 2008 at 6:38 pmHIT HIM, DON’T WALK HIM. Lame.
April 15th, 2008 at 6:39 pm…and Resop is up in the bullpen. FAIL.
April 15th, 2008 at 6:39 pmWatching this team, I just don’t see how we can come back from a two or three-run deficit right now.
April 15th, 2008 at 6:39 pmomg, and resop is up in the pen. I guess Bobby is throwing in the towel early this game.
April 15th, 2008 at 6:40 pmWe’re seeing what happens when you combine an aging pitching staff with thrift and a youth movement.
It equals, not good.
April 15th, 2008 at 6:42 pmCan’t strike him out.
Cantu.
April 15th, 2008 at 6:44 pmPretty solid outing by Jurrjens.
Now hopefully he won’t get hung with a loss.
April 15th, 2008 at 6:45 pmBetter than solid.
April 15th, 2008 at 6:47 pmIf he hadn’t gotten squeezed on so many knee high strikes called balls by this moronic ump, he’d have fared even better.
I’m pretty impressed with Jurrjens and think he has #2 SP ability.
April 15th, 2008 at 6:48 pmI have faith in this team to get extra-base hits and RBIs with three-, four- or five-run leads. I don’t have much faith in its collective ability to get those same hits when it’s a one- or two-run game. The inconsistency is maddening and depressing, since it’s a rerun of ’06 and ’07.
April 15th, 2008 at 6:51 pmSeriously, same shit as last year. We don’t make any adjustments and I blame Pendleton. It’s his job to help them do that.
April 15th, 2008 at 6:51 pmImpressive pinch hit showing.
Bring in Resop.
April 15th, 2008 at 6:54 pmJurrjens could have done better there. At least he got on base twice at Colorado.
April 15th, 2008 at 6:55 pmMaybe Resop will pitch his way off the team tonight.
April 15th, 2008 at 6:56 pmWell the Marlins knew they could take Olsen out once they saw Resop come in to the game.
April 15th, 2008 at 6:57 pmStockman in Richmond today:
3.1 IP, 0 H, 0 BB, 4 Ks.
April 15th, 2008 at 6:57 pmOne out for Poser. Impressive.
April 15th, 2008 at 7:00 pmI thought the Braves were the only team that couldn’t bunt.
April 15th, 2008 at 7:01 pmWe survived an inning in which Resop pitched. I’ll take it.
Why not make that big comeback tonight – the one that turns the whole season around.
April 15th, 2008 at 7:07 pmMy goodness, just checkout the score…where is the offense AGAIN?!?!?!?!
April 15th, 2008 at 7:07 pmSorry, been in meetings all day. Brought three runs with me. Any takers?
April 15th, 2008 at 7:08 pmNot our night.
April 15th, 2008 at 7:09 pmWe suck
April 15th, 2008 at 7:10 pmThe meeting was more enjoyable than this.
April 15th, 2008 at 7:10 pmRe: #77
Do you mean for the series or tonight? We may not see three in the series.
April 15th, 2008 at 7:10 pmWhy can’t we find middle relievers like that?
April 15th, 2008 at 7:10 pmTheir for tonight! C’mon, it’s Kevin Gregg, have some faith.
April 15th, 2008 at 7:15 pmHaving faith in this offense? That’s pretty hard right now…
April 15th, 2008 at 7:17 pmprediction–Frency pads stats with HR in 9th–braves get another ONE RUN LOSS
April 15th, 2008 at 7:17 pmComing around to the ‘it’s not our night’ theory…
Most pathetic double I’ve seen in a while.
April 15th, 2008 at 7:18 pmSo we allow x runs in this inning and score x+1 in the top of the 9th, right?
April 15th, 2008 at 7:20 pmoh, may as well blow it open before the offense teases us again by scoring one run in the ninth.
April 15th, 2008 at 7:21 pmJust think, take away Chipper’s flares and tonight was REALLY great…
April 15th, 2008 at 7:21 pm87–you nailed it–math major eh?
April 15th, 2008 at 7:24 pmthis is depressing
April 15th, 2008 at 7:24 pmWhat are the odds Ohman walks in a run here?
April 15th, 2008 at 7:25 pmwill the REAL Tex please stand up, please stand up, please stand up…
April 15th, 2008 at 7:25 pmSo Bobby prefers Ohman vs Helms to Carlyle vs Gonzalez? I sure don’t.
April 15th, 2008 at 7:25 pmOHHMAN!!!
April 15th, 2008 at 7:27 pmthats 2 thus far
April 15th, 2008 at 7:27 pmDoing his best Bennett impression.
April 15th, 2008 at 7:28 pmAnybody seen that old Twilight Zone episode called “The Mighty Casey”? It’s about a robot pitcher that strikes everyone out until MLB says he isn’t eligible because he isn’t a “man”. So the scientist puts a human heart into him; & Casey gets hammered everytime he pitches because he can’t bring himself to hurt the hitters’ feelings by striking them out.
April 15th, 2008 at 7:29 pmOh, man!
April 15th, 2008 at 7:29 pmAvery what are the odds now?
April 15th, 2008 at 7:30 pmwell who coulda seen that coming…
April 15th, 2008 at 7:30 pmHow unsurprising
April 15th, 2008 at 7:30 pmrevised scenario: Tex reaches, Frenchy hits HR to pad stats, Braves lose by one
April 15th, 2008 at 7:33 pmDouble farts!
April 15th, 2008 at 7:33 pmYou have got to be freaking kidding me.
April 15th, 2008 at 7:33 pmThis is brutal.
April 15th, 2008 at 7:34 pmThere ought to be a way to credit Ohman with the loss. He deserves it far more than Jurrjens.
April 15th, 2008 at 7:34 pmdid he just do that again
April 15th, 2008 at 7:34 pmat least he’s consistant – he’s been doing this for years
April 15th, 2008 at 7:34 pmThis is downright embarrassing. This team will be lucky to win 70 games. Sheesh.
April 15th, 2008 at 7:34 pmWalking a guy from 0-2 is a special kind of suck.
April 15th, 2008 at 7:34 pmA part of me wants him to groove one over this plate, put us down 8-0 and get this torture over with.
April 15th, 2008 at 7:36 pmThat will send him to the doghouse very soon…Mac, are we doing the doghouse thing again this year?
April 15th, 2008 at 7:36 pmTake one for the team Ohman.
April 15th, 2008 at 7:37 pmMac–time for a new poll–Resop or Ohman
Ascanio trade looks great right about now eh?
April 15th, 2008 at 7:37 pmScary.
And even scarier, that was the only pitch he threw all inning that would have hit the mitt.
April 15th, 2008 at 7:38 pmWow, I thought I got my wish there.
April 15th, 2008 at 7:38 pmthat was a hilarious inning
April 15th, 2008 at 7:38 pmAscanio is not doing much either…
April 15th, 2008 at 7:38 pmOhman’s ERA actually went down this outing.
April 15th, 2008 at 7:38 pmI was warming up the “At least it looked like a strike” line from Major League but it didn’t get out.
April 15th, 2008 at 7:39 pmkc,
They’re all in the doghouse. This team is playing like sh&t and per usual, showing no heart, emotion or anything other than clocking in, and clocking out.
April 15th, 2008 at 7:39 pmYeah Chief, we do need a pretty big doghouse right now.
April 15th, 2008 at 7:42 pmWow, I just found out Moylan has been put onto the DL. That’s great!!! This team has no hope until we get two of Sori, Moylan, and Gonzo back…
April 15th, 2008 at 7:44 pmheck they ought to give the hannah montana of hitting a point just for working the count full
April 15th, 2008 at 7:45 pmI find myself hoping this team can stay somewhere in the vicinity of .500 — within five games or so — until the bullpen can be refortified. Not that it wouldn’t have helped tonight, with our batters taking such a serene approach at the plate.
April 15th, 2008 at 7:46 pm..and the bandwagon is pretty empty. Lots of room if you want to hop in!
April 15th, 2008 at 7:47 pmWho would want to get on this team’s bandwagon FCB, they stink of rotting meat?
Without some trades, there just isn’t anything viable here.
April 15th, 2008 at 7:50 pmand the Phillies come from behind with 4 in the bottom of the 9th — and the Mets are winning. ugh.
April 15th, 2008 at 7:51 pmExcellent, the team doesn’t even bother to fight back.
April 15th, 2008 at 7:57 pm