Comments on: Josh Anderson

By: ububba

ububba — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 21:41:13 +0000

I prefer the classic “Drink, Fight & Fuck.” A band in Athens used to do a cover version & it was a regular sing-a-long. Not exactly “Michael Row the Boat Ashore,” but good enough for the Uptown Lounge.

I still have a vinyl, hand-made version of “Eat My Fuc.” (Was he just too lazy to add the last k?) Anyway, the album cover art is made with Magic Marker & it’s spectacularly offensive.

By: jjschiller

jjschiller — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 21:28:38 +0000

Certainly. Personally, I’m partial to “I Kill Everything I F***”

By: ububba

ububba — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 21:22:48 +0000

Sensitive to criticism.

And as vile as GG Allin was, he did have some catchy songs.

By: jjschiller

jjschiller — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 21:20:59 +0000

A band with an unprintable name, (named after a song by the aforementioned GG Allin) once told me that “Hitler Was A Sensitive Man.”

Strange connection..

By: ububba

ububba — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 21:14:38 +0000

Never read “The Power Broker.” Just saw Rick Burns’ NYC documentaries, which borrowed heavily from it.

BTW, I’ve read that Hitler also had poor table manners, but he did like his dog.

By: Marc Schneider

Marc Schneider — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 21:00:56 +0000

ububba,

I’m not saying Moses was a great guy or that he was necessarily good for the city–he obviously wasn’t. I’m just saying that Caro’s writing tends toward the single dimensional (a la Lyndon Johnson) and he doesn’t have much nuance. I read most of The Power Broker but couldn’t finish because, even without knowing much about Moses, it seemed like a very one-sided work. Other than Hitler, it’s hard for me to believe a single person can be 100% evil.

By: ububba

ububba — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 20:20:54 +0000

Having lived in the area here for 19 years now, I think I get the connection Brooklyn people had for their team. I’ve talked with plenty of people who grew up with the Dodgers and, as much as any sports stories I ever hear around NYC, those are my favorite.

And Marc, I believe the SI story is a very condensed version of that Shapiro book.

As far as I know, Robert Moses was only defeated twice. Once, when he wanted to pave over a portion of Greenwich Village to create an elevated east-west roadway that traversed Manhattan.

The other, when he wanted to create a north-south roadway from the middle of Long Island, through the beautiful North Shore, to go to a bridge that would be built from Bayville to Connecticut, traversing the LI Sound.

If anyone wants to demonize Moses over those attempted moves, that’s fine with me.

Mac,
O’Malley got caught up in city politics & paid for it. He did get his rewards in LA, however, to be sure.

By: Mac Thomason

Mac Thomason — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 20:19:09 +0000

Overexcited recap is up!

By: Mac Thomason

Mac Thomason — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 20:12:49 +0000

I’ve always thought that O’Malley got short shrift. He moved heaven and earth to build a great team, and he really didn’t get the rewards the other owners were getting at the time.

By: Marc Schneider

Marc Schneider — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 20:00:47 +0000

Frankly, while I understand the bitterness that Brooklyn felt, let’s face it, no city has a right to a team any more than it has a right to any other business. Sports teams are not municipal utilities. But, given the new information that is out, they probably did have a right to be bitter toward Moses–but they would have to get in line. As I understand from reading an excellent book called The Last Good Season-Brooklyn, the Dodgers and Their Final Pennant Race Together by Michael Shapiro–O’Malley wanted to build a new stadium in Brooklyn but Moses wouldn’t let him because he had other plans for the site and seemed to have an antipathy to using public public land (even for purchase)for sports teams. I don’t know if Moses is the antichrist Caro makes him out to be–Caro does tend to demonize–he certainly didn’t like plans that differed from his own.